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SamuelRSmith said:
the2real4mafol said:

yeah if that applied nationwide, it would probably drop to 50 murders or less a year


Funny, when the UK banned handguns, murder rates didn't go down:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1440764.stm - Handgun crime up, despite ban.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html - Gun crime up 89% over a decade.

It is true that crime has decreased a little over the past couple of years... you'd be twisting it a bit to suggest this had anything to do with the ban. Especially when many of the years before the decrease (that is, over the next 10 years after the ban) crime levels were at the highest levels ever recorded.

Also, just look at the USA. Look at the states and cities which have fantastic gun rights, and compare them to those that have gun bans.


Yep. My county is proof of that. We have about 1 murder every 5 years in a county with ~50,000 people. That's well below European standards. That's despite the fact that we are (as far as I know), one of the largest guns-per-capita areas in the US. Everyone, and I mean everyone, has a gun. We have people that build machine guns, shoot them, and everything in between.

Yet murders are almost unheard of.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.