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Train wreck on 06 August 2012
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RolStoppable said:
Train wreck said:

Well if you look at the numbers...

We dont have the forex impact of last year but 3.2 of the 3.5 operating loss for Q1 2012 is currency. So strip that out you're basically at breakeven.

Quarter (Q4 Jan to Mar) on Quarter (Q1 Apr to Jun); the loss went from a -11.5 to -3.5 (not including currency). Q4 included the launch numbers for Europe and the US.  If the numbers for Q1 are worse than Q4 for vita sales, where did the 8 billion yen gain come from?

The division has 20 billion dollar sales hit (from Q1 '11 to Q1 '12) which again impacted its bottom line, if you are not selling more stuff you can't profit off it. They sold 400k less ps2/ps3 400k combination psv/psp and 8.3 million units of software between all platforms (with software being the biggest driver)  

Saying its all vita fault is the nice convenient way out but its alot more than just that.

During the early PS3 days, one Sony executive said it best (paraphrasing here): "Our losses were lower than expected, because we sold [shipped] less PS3 units than expected." - That's where much of Sony's gain in Q1 2012 comes from, because they had to ship less Vita units than in the previous quarter.

You can go into semantics, but the initial point of contention was whether the PSV is sold at a loss. It certainly is and I don't think you will disagree with this.

PSP/Vita shipments:

Q4 (Jan - Mar) shipments .9

Q1 (Apr - June) shipments 1.4  Im sure that the 500k increase in shipments is not all PSP.

The loss for the PS3 was profound we could tell immedieatly that the system was selling at a huge loss.  The PSVita, not so much.  we have had 3 quarters of Sony's game numbers and there is no extreme drop off in sales or profits (losses) outside normal seasonal trends.