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Kasz216 said:

I have a few problems with this.

Firstly, you don't seem to understand what infrastructure is.

Secondly, generally when urban renewel projects happen what happens is the poor get pushed out.  Not Uplifted.

Thirdly, the areas you talked about aren't areas that were lifted up through welfare.


You seem to be conflating Infrastructure spending, Welfare spending and Urban Renewal as if they were the same thing in an attempt to make them look all Pro and no Con.

There are a few big issues

1) When people talk about infrastructure they don't mean sattelite dishes.  They usually mean big stuff like phone lines, dams, stuff like that.

2) In general actually Urban Renewel has lately been one of the biggest problems with cities.   Largely because they tend to target older poorer neighberhoods that actually tend to have the kind of buildings that companies looking back to migrate to the city might use.  They actually just had a really great guest talking about this on NPR yesterday.

In general, having a private company moving into your poor area is the best way for urban renewel because your not likely to be pushed out of your homes, because your homes are still poor, and not going to be bulldozed for new buildings.

3) Welfare spending... as in, giving people money and stuff because they're poor hurts the economy.  That's fine though.  I don't know why people try and make up numbers to try and fake and pretend it helps the economy.  As far as I know the point of welfare is to help people.  Why people try and pretend its something else i'll never get.

If welfare was to help people Republicans would have never been overwhelmingly for it.