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theprof00 said:
HappySqurriel said:
theprof00 said:
HappySqurriel said:
theprof00 said:
sperrico87 said:
In the same way I strongly disagreed last year with Elizabeth Warren when she said something similiar, I also disagree with Obama and his team on this.

Obama and Warren say you need government to have roads and bridges, wireless internet, schools, etc...But who is the government? The government created nothing. All they can do is rob you with a gun, and forcibly transfer wealth from one person to another. The government can come and take money from you, and use it to build a road, that incidentally you can use because you don't have any other choices. But the money had to come from productive effort. Everything the government has done has been by transferring wealth, not by creating it. Governments are always destructive in the creation of wealth.

Except they put a lot of people to work who then buy your products.


If I take money out of your cash register and then buy a product from you with that money am I a customer or a cost?

You mean like someone that you hired to do inventory because your store can't run by itself?

Cost. The cost of doing business.

I think you missed the point ...

If a theif comes into McDonalds, empties the cash-register and then uses some of that money to buy a meal deal you're worse off.

If the government taxes you excessively and then (directly or indirectly) some of that money is used to buy something from you you're still worse off.

 

The only time you're better off for having the government involved is if you're being taxed for them to provide something that can not be provided by the private sector in a cost effective way.

I think you made a great analogy and are trying to back out of it because you don't like that it goes against your argument.

That is absolutely typical of you guys.

You keep depending on using the word thief, but the employees you pay to run the place get paid, and often then invest back into the company through 401ks and buying the food themselves.

Similarly, having good conditioned roads helps bring both people to you, and for you to ship.

No... you just kinda failed at reading comprehension there and read into it what you wanted by throwing in a nonrelated factor.