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superchunk said:
Play4Fun said:
Persistantthug said:

Trying to give comparisons of a handheld to a full on console will render a misguided opinion.

 

For 1, and for reasons that I myself don't understand, Handhelds are not given the same importance or "red carpet treatment that consoles are.

Consoles, for example are almost always launched during the holidays.  In fact, every single home console since from the Dreamcast on has, except for the PS2, which still did release in America during holidays.

So that includes, DREAMCAST, GAMECUBE, XBOX 1, XBOX 360, PS3, Wii, and the Wii U is also scheduled for Q4 2012.  PS2 launch in March 2000 in Japan, and holiday 2000 in the US.

All of these consoles had a minimum of a 1 year lead time from announcement to launch....only the XBOX 360 was officially announced 6 months before, but the industry still knew it was coming and even knew much of the specs because of other announcements & leaks from manufacturers such as AMD.

 

Basically, unless Sony plans on announcing PS4 at TGS 2012 in September, there will be no PS4 in 2013, because it will be too late for marketing and manufacturing purposes.

What I'm describing to you are patterns and trends.  What you are trying to pine on, go against these layed down, tried and true patterns and trends.

Even if we were to disregard the fact that you've already proven yourself to be wrong, but because Sony has said no, and because of the patterns Sony has established, There's just simply no reason for anyone to believe you, regarding the PS4.  Sorry.

Marketing doesn't really start until a little while before a console launches/when it launches.

It doesn't make any sense to say unless Sony announce PS4 at TGS 2012, they cannot manufacture the console.

Nothing you've said tells us that there can't be a PS4 in 2013.

Pretty much what I was thinking, but I didn't want to continue a pointless argument with him.

They could easily wait until well after 2013 has started before announcing the PS4. However, knowing the market and the competition, it is suicide to not launch in 2013 along side the neXtBox.


We don't even know XBOX 360 will launch in 2013 for a fact.

I have doubts.

For example, why would they put out one of those "2 year like cell phone deals" if they were planning on bringing out a new console in 1 year?

 

For XBOX 360, I estimate about a 50% chance for 2013

but

Specifically for PS4.....you're looking at about a 5% chance.....10 if you want to try and stretch it.   Either way, for the PS4, that's what I call HOPES & DREAMS.