Soriku said:
Degausser said:
phenom08 said:
@2000cc So in other words, you are waiting for a Monster Hunter Portable even though Monster Hunter 4 is portable game and not on home consoles. They could have been named that because they were released for portables while the main entry are released for home consoles. This time that wouldn't make any sense at all. |
It's hard to explain to people who arn't really fans of the series really. It is a bigger distinguishment then just having 'Portable' in the title. Moving the 'normal' series to handheld should have a bigger impact on thing though, but I dunno, all I can tell you is that after MH4 there wil be a MHP4, and it'll be a bigger deal in Japan, whatever console(s) it is on.
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What makes you so sure that they're not blurring the lines between the mainline (MH1, 2, 3, 4) and Portable series with MH4? After all, MH4 is the first mainline game on a handheld. MH is huge in Japan because of it being portable, not because of the "Portable" name itself. That's why MH3G sold even better than MH3. I find it more likely that they'll just release a MH4G in place of a MHP4. The only real place they'd make a MHP4 besides the 3DS would be the Vita (since it's the only other handheld) but that'd be stupid if they're building up the fanbase on the 3DS with MH3G and MH4. And a MHP4 sounds dumb on the 3DS too as MH4 is already portable. Whatever changes they could make for a MHP4 could just be incorporated to MH4G.
2000cc said:
@phenom08 Yeah if you have ever played Portable 3rd, or Freedom Unite (both final versions of their respective monster hunter games) they are vastly different to their comparative 'initial' Monster Hunter releases (eg MH 2 & MH tri) to the tune of A LOT of extra content (4 new weapons (on the previous 10), a much higher difficulty gradient, more monster and lands and a completely differnt setting in the case of portable 3rd from tri)
The thing with the 'portable' or 'freedom' series' is that they are seen as the complete versions of the games, If you play freedom unite on psp next to tri on the Wii, you will notice that even though Tri is MH3 while freedom unite is MH2 not only do 4 (of the most interesting) weapons get cut in the transition to Tri, but there is far less content in Tri and it is far easier (which is odd given that MH was originally a difficulty based game, like demons souls). Quite frankly Tri (and its portable version 3G on 3DS) are not even comparable to portable 3rd (the 'complete' version of MH3) on psp, and many long term monster hunter fans (myself inculded) were quite disappointed by the watering down of the series in Tri.
The portable series is the 'real' monster hunter for long term players, while the nintendo versions seem to be less intensive (but still tough in places, no disrespect as it is a hard game in parts, just nowhere near as many as other MH games) versions of MH to bring new people into the franchise.
but it is hard to explain to those who are not players of the series, I dont play MMO's, so this is a guess but an attempted similie would be something like saying the nintendo MH games are like someone with the original world of warcraft game only, while the comparison for freedom unite or Potable 3rd would be someone playing with every WOW expansion also. The additional content & extra difficulty of the likes of the 'portable' series makes them a different game to the basic nintendo editions that always predate them
& 2 million sales for tri is not that hot for an MH game, freedom unite & portable 3rd psp (listed as freedom 3) both more than doubled Tri's numbers (portable 3rd doing nearly 5 million even though never getting any release outside of Japan!)
@Degausser, thanks again, always great to see a fan on here
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From what I've heard from a bunch of people who've played MHP3, MHP3 is much easier than Tri. MHP3 doesn't even have G Rank, the hardest rank, while MH3G does. So I'm not sure why you say Nintendo MHs are less intensive (like being on a Nintendo system really matters with how they make the difficulty, as you can see with people's impressions with MHP3).
MH3G has content from MHP3 too, as well as G Rank as I noted, so it has the same amount of content if not more than MHP3. Also, the bolded line of yours doesn't even make sense since there was only one MH edition before MHP3. MHP3 predates MH3G.
Also let's not get into that sales discussion again. Portable MH will always be bigger than console MH. MH3G sold more than MH3 in Japan.
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Having played (and currently owning) both Portable 3rd and 3G, I can say that I disagree entirely with your sources, Portable 3rd is a lot harder than 3G (but neither are as hard as freedom unite imo). Dont get too caught up in the 'g' rank quest addition, they were an addition for MHFU as an expansion rank to the usual quests, in this (freedom unite) they were almost impossible. As 3g's monsters are comparitively easier, its G rank is also.
Plus 3G lacks the more technical weapons, mainly the bow, hunting horn and gunlance. It could just be that I'm a gunlance and hunting horn user mainly (both considered two of the most technical weapon trees) but portable 3rd was leagues more difficult than 3G, and I have friends in Japan (i've lived and worked there for quite a long time previously, hence why I even still like games at all) who think portable 3rd is even harder than Freedom Unite (I disagree, but thats their opinion). I'd say either your sources havent finished the games, or they just find the 3ds controls harder to use than the psp ones. Because my personal, and my main MH infulence groups opinion I dont know a single person who would rate 3g harder than P3rd. While others would rate P3rd the hardest MH ever, and these folks are hardcore MH players (we are talking thousands of hours, with all the armours & weapons like the fatalis & G series, I've even witnessed one do a no armour, hammer (a weapon that cant block) run vs G rank tigrex in MHFU!(a monster so big a dodge roll takes you only from one of its feet to its other and it has massive tail reach with one hit kills in most top level armour)).
...and as for content, portable 3rd has more content than 3g, even though 3g was later, just like freedom unite has more content than tri, even though tri was later. Tri was cut down heavily from what was included in freedom unite, 3g is the expansion of this (cut down version), where portable 3rd is the most content heavy MH in existence.
but it all comes back to the fact MH tri & 3G are barely even the same games as portable 3rd, its like comparing apples with oranges.
