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brendude13 said:
killerzX said:

I've seen a full auto AR-15 before on Youtube, but I just found out it was semi-auto. I can't tell the difference between that and an M4 though, my mistake. Think of what could have happened if his weapon was fully automatic though, those types of guns are still legal. Semi-auto is still very deadly, but it's the high capacity mags that make all the difference, 5 rounds and 30 rounds is the difference between a tool and a killing machine.

Cars are personal transportation and personal transportation is needed, especially for the emergency services. Roads are quite safe and cars are getting safer every year, there are only so many deaths on roads because so many people have cars. Banning cars would be like banning obesity, or the internet or making people wear gas masks and bubble wrap suits when they step outside. The problem with guns is that I believe they're far more dangerous than they are useful. This is coming from somebody who loves guns. I want gun laws to be more lenient in my country, but I think even semi-automatic weapons and easily concealed pistols is pushing it. I would sleep much better at night knowing that none of the idiots I know will be able to walk around with a gun.


AR-15's are "civilian" models of the M-16, they are only semi-auto. the M-16 while still abtainable by civilians is very hard to come by. first of all you are looking at spending easily over $10,000 for the gun its self, then you have to get a tax stamp, get backround check, finger prints, etc, you go on a data base, i dont know the whole process, because its so complicated, and hard, but. pretty much if you arent rich you arent getting a full auto.

i already pointed why it was actually a good thing he had a "high capacity" magazine. so i will quote myself from earlier in this thread.

 

"but i 100% disagree with you about 50/100 round magazines should be illegal.

they should be perfectly legal, in fact him using that 100 round drum magazine saved a lot of lives. see,  high capacity drum magazines are prone to "jamming" because packing all those rounds of ammunation puts a lot of stress of the spring in the mag, and it often mis-feeds into the gun, causing lots of jams. the shooter had a jam, and being the untrained, inexperienced shooter that he was, he had no idea how to fix the malfunction. that saved numerous lives."

also regarding cars. like i said there are so many more mode of transportation. there is walking, biking, trains, buses, planes, scooters, etc. and they are all safer. the fact is there are more guns in the US than cars, yet cars kill people wayyyyy more. and i think protecting ones life is much more important than a mode of transportation. while i feel the most important function of a gun is to defend ones life, like i said, there is an abundance of reasons to own a gun. furthermore, a gun is constitutional protected right, a car is not.

anyway, the fbi reported in 2009 that there were nearly 14,000 murders that year, only about 300 of them came from rifles. they dont report how many came from "assualt" rifles, so i will leavve that up to you to guess how many of the rifles were "assualt".

also over 90% of all guns are semi-auto. they arent anything special. people use that as a buzz word, and think its especially deadly.

 

also, i would like to apologize, if i sound a bit hostile, as that is not my intent. i merely want to inform the public about firearms, because most of the fear and histeria that surrounds them is breed from ignorance of firearms, and is not founded in reality or statistics. i want to infrom people, educate them, so they can form an opinion that is grounded in fact, not propaganda.

so again, i apologize if i sound that way, i want to remain civil, while stern.