| CrazzyMan said: @crumas2, 1) PS3 launched at 600$(less then 10% had 500$ price), while PS2 had 300$ price. BUT, PS2 had a PRICECUT to 199$ in May 2002, or only 3rd year since launch. WHOLE 2001 PS2 had price 300$. NOW, i really BELIEVE, PS3 will get 300$ price this year. So, on 2nd year, PS3 will have 300$ price(or half of launch price) = just like 150$ would be a price of PS2 in 2001, BUT ps2 had 300$. THIS a BIG advantage for PS3. 2) Bullshit. Loss few, gaining MANY. 3) 120Gb still will be having BC, not to mention, There will be software BC in 40GB model by the end 2008 or 2009. 4) which have WEAK line compared to PS3 in 2008. PS3 outselling x360 WW, which has 2 games pack-in and cost 50$ less. EXPLAIN. @Oyvoyvoyv, I know it has good 3rd party, but the others have similary good games. WRONG, PS3 has BEST 3rd party exclusive games in 2008.http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS®1=All&cons2=PS2®2=All&cons3=PS3®3=All&weeks=156 HERE are numbers form 1st year of each system LIFE. System LIFE begins since system is availble FIRST time on the market, not since release in other regions. It`s system problem, if it didn`t have simultaneous launches. You can compare PS3 sales to x360 and wii, but PS3 had 4 month later launch in Europe. Then how market share is divided by TOTAL numbers on FRONT PAGE, when ps3 has 4 month disadvantage in Europe? |
1. I think you may have something regarding Sony dropping the price so rapidly if they can stop removing features such as BC, etc., on the low end. The biggest problem for Sony is the fact that they've lost part of their momentum by their initial price being so high. I have to discount your $300 price argument because it hasn't happened yet. If it does happen, then I will agree that Sony will have to a large degree overcome issue # 1.
2. I haven't seen a reverse in the multi-platform trend for the 360 and PS3. Many studios have complained that both platforms cost 5-10 times as much to produce a AAA title for, compared to the PS2 and Xbox. Studios really need to get some of that money back, so I'm fairly certain that the trend to spread the cost across both (or all three) platforms will continue. You can argue with the Studios all you want, but I think at some point in the future all we'll see on 360 and PS3 that will be exclusive will be first-party titles.
3. It's good that Sony seems to be retaining BC on the high-end, but it's still a liability on the low-end. And as in item #1, I can't give you credit for the software BC until it becomes a reality (which I do believe may come to pass) and we see how good it is. When the PS3 first came out, I actually sold two of the guys at work on it because I could prove that it had hardware BC, i.e. - a majority of the games would play. Having software BC is a lot less compelling, particularly considering that usually only a small percentage of games will play, there will be some # of glitches in some of those games, and the really heavy-duty games (such as Shadow of the Colossus) which programmed straight to the hardware won't be supported.
4. Again, you can't claim that the PS3 will have a stronger lineup in 2008 until we know which titles are actually released on the 360 and Wii. MS is keeping its cards close to its chest at this point in time, so it's really difficult to know exactly what the 2008 360 lineup will look like. You also can't say that a system with a relatively small software library will have an *overall* stronger lineup than a competitor that already has a strong library. Many people who purchase 360s and Wiis in 2008 will do so because they will finally find one (in the Wiis case), the price will drop (which the 360 and Wii are overdue for), or they finally have the money (tax return in the US, saved enough over time, etc.). You just can't assume that most of the 360/PS3/Wii purchases in 2008 will be for new games that come out in 2008. I believe the PS3 will see a bit of a hardware-sales spike from FF and possibly GT5, but DMC4 is now multi-platform, so any "exclusivity" advantage is lost. And saying that the PS3 is "beating" the 360 in sales WW is a little bit of a stretch when you're talking about the difference in sales last week being < 10%.
I do give Sony credit in 3 areas:
1. They are actually getting the cost down.
2. They've built a really reliable console.
3. The console has sold really well last year despite being expensive.
The cost cutting has definitely cost them billions of dollars, but hats off to them for realizing it was needed. Unfortunately, I don't think they will be able to continue slashing the prices that aggressively unless they intend to wipe out all the profits they made in their game division over the past 12 years (they've already lost about half of it).
As far as selling pretty much on par with the 360 WW at this time, that's a good thing. But the 360 has been out for longer, so it's expected that its sales will eventually lower, particularly in a field with three competitors. If MS drops the price of the 360 significantly (and they can probably afford to do it considering how cash rich they are), then we may see a swing back for the 360. It's difficult to say, considering none of us can see the future.
