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bouzane on 27 July 2012
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happydolphin said:
bouzane said:

Again, why does one group of people, who never defined marriage to begin with, get to rule over all others in a supposedly secular and inclusive society?

Now we're seeing eye to eye. I know you've been trying to say this, but I've also been trying to get you to say this as it is, not in many other ways that are much more ambiguous or erroneous.

This is the issue, and yes, I'm trying to answer this question myself. I'm not sure atm.

How about this, he's being judgmental (what would Christ think about this?). 

Not sure. I don't know if Christ denounces judgementalism, I think it depends on the context or importance of the issue. For example, Jesus was "judgemental" against the pharisees.

The question is was Jesus right? Yes he was. Is Cathy right, let's look into it. I'm not sure exactly what he's trying to say in his quote.


Again, the Christians lose nothing if the government recognizes same-sex marriage so nothing is being done to them, at all. Marriage is not theirs to define and if they so wish they may refuse to marry same-sex couples and have nothing to do with the whole matter. If government judges and Jewish Temples want to provide same-sex marriages then nobody should stop them.