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Girl Gamer Elite said:
starcraft said:
@ GGE

So what you are saying is that developers should be resigned to the fact that they cannot make a profit, but be content to barely stay afloat by existing only on the Wii? No More Heroes, a VERY high quality game just debuted with 40,000 on the Wii. It will not turn a profit. The most comparable game on the 360, Crackdown, is a million seller.

How many developer's have to complain that they cannot profit off the Wii before people like you take notice? I purchased a Wii for ONE reason. Nintendo's first-party franchises.

You can keep accusing everyone of having no logic, you can keep accusing everyone of dodging facts, but at the end of the day you do not have a coherent argument based in anything remotely resembling reality. Businesses do not exist to survive (in any case many could not if their development was confined to the Wii), they exist to make money.

If your only defense is trying to play down the Wii's profitability then this is an argument you've already lost. What did Mario and Sonic Olympics debut at? And where is its sales now? Developers like Capcom and Ubisoft are reporting record profits due to the Wii, that hardly sounds like just barely staying afloat to me. Any third party developer that is suffering on the Wii is one who has not put a serious effort into it yet, i.e. EA.

Since you are continuously dodging my points in favor of ones you think you can catch me on, you are the one dodgin the points. What happened to your claim that MS/Sony were turning a profit after I put it in its place? What happened to your claim developers were making money on the 360/PS3 when in this argument you assert, "okay so they aren't."

Face it, you don't have a solid argument to support your claims. If this is what it must come to then perhaps you should consider agreeing to dissagree as I don't see you recognizing HD graphics aren't the best medicine for the market as it stands.


Funny, but I could have sworn that Mario was Nintendo's flagship character and that this game's profits were meant to be split down the middle with Nintendo.  I also could have sworn that Capcom's mega-profits were coming from Dead Rising, DMC 4 and Lost Planet, rather than the commercial flop that was Zack and Wiki.  Furthermore, I could have sworn that Ubisoft's massive profits were coming from the success of Naruto and above all Assassin's Creed.

You did not say anything to refute the fact that Sony and MS are turning a profit.  I sincerely hope you don't try too, as all i need to do to comprehensively refute you is post their quarterly reports.  Nowhere do I say that developers "aren't" making money of the 360, you said that and offered nothing to back it up.  I argue quite the contrary, and the sales figures support me.

I've never really had much to do with you on these boards, but a quick glance made me wonder why everyone accuses you of being a rabid fangirl devoid of any logic or realism.  I wonder no more, as your solution to any argument your losing is to dance around with word games and simply state that you have "put arguments in their place" after really doing nothing of the sort.



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