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Marks said:
killerzX said:
Mr Khan said:
Marks said:
yum123 said:
Marks said:
If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

No amount of gun control would have stopped this, but maybe with less gun control an armed law-abiding citizen in the theatre could have stopped this and minimalized casualties. The police are there to bag and tag bodies and arrest the criminal after the fact, not to prevent crime.

that is such a narrow minded view. what a load of crap. look at most countries where guns are illegal, there are far far fewer gun murders in those countries compared to the usa. If they outlawed guns you wouldnt be able to find them so easily in shops. also It would slowly seep out of their culture. thats the problem with usa guns are a part of there culture

No, actually the view that gun control will stop gun crime is narrow minded. There are more than enough statistics in the US that show less gun control actually lowers crime. Thousands of citizens stop crimes each year with legally purchased guns. And do you really think gun control will stop a well planned out murder like this, Columbine, etc. that have had months, if not years, of planning? It was going to happen one way or another. 

Just like more concealed-carry wouldn't have stopped this. Freak events like this are just that: freak, and shouldn't be determinant of policy. The only good thing here is it helps, just maybe, to convince people that maybe it isn't a good idea for just anyone to have access to an AR-15, but everyone can agree that there is little that would have stopped this: no-one could have John McClained this guy no matter what people think, while he seemed perfectly capable of devising homemade explosives that he could have used in lieu of easily accessible guns.

what im always stuck by, is how people who love gun control, especially those in the media, love saying buzz words like "high-powered" assault weapon" military style"semi-automatic (this media loves confusing full auto, with semi-auto)  etc.

but in reality this "high powered assualt rifle" AR-15, is functionally no different than most hunting rifles, its just that the AR-15 looks "scary," so it should be banned

in fact this gun is significantly more deadly than....

this gun:


Thank you! Finally a reasonable person. Just because it looks military style like an M-16 people think it's more deadly. There are way more powerful/deadly weapons that civilians can have. 


but i 100% disagree with you about 50/100 round magazines should be illegal.

they should be perfectly legal, in fact him using that 100 round drum magazine saved a lot of lives. see,  high capacity drum magazines are prone to "jamming" because packing all those rounds of ammunation puts a lot of stress of the spring in the mag, and it often mis-feeds into the gun, causing lots of jams. the shooter had a jam, and being the untrained, inexperienced shooter that he was, he had no idea how to fix the malfunction. that saved numerous lives.