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Marks on 25 July 2012
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Mr Khan said:
Marks said:
yum123 said:
Marks said:
If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

No amount of gun control would have stopped this, but maybe with less gun control an armed law-abiding citizen in the theatre could have stopped this and minimalized casualties. The police are there to bag and tag bodies and arrest the criminal after the fact, not to prevent crime.

that is such a narrow minded view. what a load of crap. look at most countries where guns are illegal, there are far far fewer gun murders in those countries compared to the usa. If they outlawed guns you wouldnt be able to find them so easily in shops. also It would slowly seep out of their culture. thats the problem with usa guns are a part of there culture

No, actually the view that gun control will stop gun crime is narrow minded. There are more than enough statistics in the US that show less gun control actually lowers crime. Thousands of citizens stop crimes each year with legally purchased guns. And do you really think gun control will stop a well planned out murder like this, Columbine, etc. that have had months, if not years, of planning? It was going to happen one way or another. 

Just like more concealed-carry wouldn't have stopped this. Freak events like this are just that: freak, and shouldn't be determinant of policy. The only good thing here is it helps, just maybe, to convince people that maybe it isn't a good idea for just anyone to have access to an AR-15, but everyone can agree that there is little that would have stopped this: no-one could have John McClained this guy no matter what people think, while he seemed perfectly capable of devising homemade explosives that he could have used in lieu of easily accessible guns.


Yeah I agree, good post. Nothing could have stopped this, it would have been just a fluke if someone happened to be concealed carrying a handgun and got him before he killed anyone. 

But there is really no reason to outlaw AR-15's just because they look like a military weapon. They're single shot and less deadly than a lot of other weapons out there like an AK-47 which you can own if it's not fully automatic, and semi-automatic hunting rifles which can be huge calibres. The only thing I would like to see banned are 50/100 round drums, I think 30 round magazines are all you should be allowed. In Canada you're only allowed 5 shots on a rifle which is retarded, but saying you need an 100 round drum for target shooting is bullshit. Something like 20-30 sounds fair to me.