Nem said:
VXIII said:
First of all, I respect Agnosticism. since you share that view I have no idea why you made that first statement, they doesn't go along.
All you have mentioned is interesting and true, however your first statement is still wrong. if we can prove those things exist now, people couldn't back in time, but thoughts, emotions (.. etc) existed with us all along even before we could prove them.
You need to understand that being religious is merely an attempt to understand this world, religion is NOT the opposite of science. Religion is like the frame of the picture, and science is the picture itself, they complete each other. Religion is not about ignorance and fears, those are empty claims. the last paragraph is a totally different subject.
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But then you're telling me that religion is the sum of things we cant yet explain. Thats almost the same as saying a singularity is a religion cause we do not understand it. Yes, i guess you can see it as something that fills the void while we dont have the knowledge to answer something, but its not something thats used that nobly, and just like the singularity term, its just a filler until we can find the real explanation. Sometimes i wonder what the problem is with "i dont know why this happens yet"instead of "i dont understand this, so its gotta be an almighty god that is responsible for it".
To explain my first statement, i dont believe god exists, but i hope he does. Racionally, there really is no logic reason or proof for him to exist, besides human hopes. Do i hope he does? Oh yes, who wouldnt like salvation and life after death? This hope is completely irrational and unrealistic though. But, i believe in beeing a good and kind person and not going around shooting people just because i believe theres no afterlife.
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If I believed for a second that science can understand and explain everything in this world even in the distant future I wouldn't be religious at all. Religion isn't supposed to answer everything we don't know yet (religion encourages science BTW “Allah will exalt in degree those of you who believe, and those who have been granted knowledge"). it the answer for the thing that is beyond our logic.. something not to be answer by science or logic. no matter how many theories we come up with it wouldn't be enough because there must be a point where it all started. that point is god. that's my simple logic to believe.
However, I understand what you're saying. people use their religion to answer everything because they don't want to think themselves or admit that they don't know.
