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Mr Khan said:
sperrico87 said:
radishhead said:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/19071381/shooting-at-theater-during-batman-premiere-in-colorado

I just turned on the news and I saw this incident - apparently it's the worst in the USA since a school shooting many years ago (I think), so it's extremely saddening.

Aside from just reporting the story however (which I assume American users know about already), I wondered what your opinions were regarding gun laws. It's impossible to deny that the chances of such a tragedy happening would be reduced if ownership of a gun is illegal without a license (assuming these licenses were very difficult to get, and wouldn't allow a civilian to carry one in public). Is the idea of possessing a gun an outdated idea, or is it still significant in the modern world?

I completely disagree with the premise of your question.  I don't think that just because there is a shooting, that there should be an automatic debate on gun laws and Second Amendment rights.  I see no correlation whatsoever.

Criminals are people who by definition do not abide by laws, so how can you say that law-abiding citizens should have their right to bear arms diminished or taken away because an insane person went on a rampage? 

Better yet, why would you willingly take away the right of people to defend themselves against violent crimes in progress?  If more people in that theatre had a concealed pistol, they could have taken the shooter down and saved lives.  I just see no sense in your post at all.

We've been over this endlessly. A second shooter would have just likely shot more innocents in the confusion, or hesitated for fear of doing so, like the individual who was conceal-carrying during the Gabrielle Giffords shooting. Concealed-carry people are not automatically heroes.

For me, (and feel free to disagree), I always look at questions like this and I ask if they can be solved with more freedom instead of less.  You don't believe it to be the case that concealed carriers would have been able to stop the massacre before it began, or at least stopped it before 14 fatalities and 50 injuries, and I disagree.  I think it might have made a huge difference.  I'm not saying that concealed-carriers are automatically heroes, but I just don't see how a few good law-abiding carriers couldn't have made a difference.