Shooting at Batman Premiere - 12 dead / Your opinions on gun laws

[Baalzamon]

the_dengle said:

Baalzamon said:

A criminal is breaking the law.  You really think he cares that it is illegal to own a gun?  They will own one regardless of the law.

So therefore we should do nothing to attempt to prevent criminals from getting guns. This is the best logic ever. Why are heavy explosives illegal? All that does is prevent good, law-abiding citizens from getting heavy explosives to defend themselves with, while criminals still have heavy explosives because apparently illegal things are ridiculously easy to obtain.

Just because any Joe Shmoe can get his hands on a blunt doesn't mean guns would be equally obtainable if they were illegal.

You should think about the logic you are using once.

Certain people break laws with guns, therefore we should make guns illegal to at least try to prevent this from happening.

Well by that logic, we should also ban vehicles, because certain people break laws with them, and without vehicles being allowed, those laws wouldn't be broken.

We should also ban baseball bats, because certain people break laws with them, and if we ban them, it will prevent this from happening.

We should ban knives because certain people break laws with them, and if we ban them, we will at least try to prevent this from happening.

Etc, etc etc.

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Banning guns isn't the solution to this occurring.  Contrary to that, I'd say a much better solution (which will likely never happen) is to fix how people treat each other.  Just MAYBE, if people weren't bullied throughout their entire childhood, they wouldn't decide to shoot up an entire school?  Just maybe, if the average American wasn't just a dickhead that treats everybody like an ass and only cares about himself, things like this wouldn't happen quite as often?

The problem is a lot bigger than guns, but it won't likely ever get fixed, because people will continue to be dickheads, and the ones treated like shit will continue to go crazy because of those dickheads.

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While posting, I also might as well ask, so people see a problem with owning a gun, but they aren't mentioning anything about how it is weird that a citizen just has a bulletproof vest as well as tear gas?