Shooting at Batman Premiere - 12 dead / Your opinions on gun laws

[Mr Khan]

insomniac17 said:

vlad321 said:

Your logic fails miserably, AGAIN. Show me how many massacres were actually prevented by someone with a gun. I can only vaguely, maybe, remember one that was stopped, not prevented, by someone with a gun. That's about it. I'm not even sure if I remember that correctly though.

To be fair, it is difficult to say just how often a gun wielding citizen has stopped a criminal from committing a crime, because we'll rarely hear about it. Similarly, we won't ever really know how often someone just flashing a gun to a criminal has stopped crime, because we won't hear about it. I'm not sure why you are distinguishing between stopping and preventing an incident; it would seem to me that in both cases, the law abiding citizen with a gun was the reason the massacre didn't happen. The massacres I hear about, such as this one, seem to always occur when there is no legal gun owner present, and obviously no cops or anything.

For everyone who wants a gun ban everywhere in the US; criminals could just go abroad to get guns. To everyone who wants a worldwide gun ban; good luck. It'd be great to live in a world with no guns, but that'll never happen.

For those of you who want to see permits for gun ownership, sure. I can live with that. I live in a state that requires you to get a permit if you want to conceal and carry a gun. The permit takes quite a while to get, and you have to go through a class about guns, gun safety, etc in order to get the permit, and I'm sure they check your background as well. You also need to be 21 or older. What I don't want to see is a requirement to register guns with the government.

Sure it would be easy for organized crime rings to acquire guns, but what about the junkie next door who's just looking for something for some quick muggings? The mafia is always going to have guns, but i don't see why we have to live in constant fear of getting shot just for that.