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Adinnieken said:
zuvuyeay said:
justinian said:
zuvuyeay said:
Zappykins said:
No not really. I would be more concerned with The Mormons and the Roman Catholic Church. Especially the later one's pull with so many of the supreme court justices.

I really wish people would just leave Politics and Religion separately. It's like mixing eggs sunny side up and chocolate rice crispies. They just don't play nice together.


just out of interest how do you separate politics from relgion when say for example the muslim brotherhood are the govts in power in egypt etc or wherever they have just got in,i can't remember now

That's the question. Religion and politics combined is how that part of the world is governed. If that's what the people want and vote for then leave them to it. I do however see your point.

The thing is this system is still stuck in the past. Who is to say it wont work well again in the future with some key changes?

I am for different political systems over the world, not the "everything almost the same" political systems so many people seem to be after.

Let people choose what system they want and leave them to it. It's the dictating to others what is right and wrong for them that helps create so many global problems.

As for this story it just proves to be careful what you wish for.


i agree with you,let the people vote on what they want,i certainly don't want the uk,usa dictating policy like they have done/tried too in the past,i was just asking how they separate religion from politics,those forces will eventually rub up against each other the more wealthy/independant the population become its inevitable,however long it takes

i don't mind relgious institutions but i certainly wouldn't want to be ruled by relgious doctrine myself but like you say its for countries to work out for themselves,which i assume is what is happening in the middle east after military dictatorships break down,everything has its pros and cons

The irony is that in the 1950's Iran had a duly elected parliamentary democracy and the UK and US helped overthrow it to reinstate the monarchy of the Shah of Iran.  Why?  Because BP Oil had interests in Iran and the Iranian government was forcibly buying them up. 

Roughly 20 years later, the Shah was overthrown, democracy ended, Shia Muslims gained power, and installed a theocracy that we're dealing with today.

Anyone who says anything about the middle-east isn't about oil, is lying.  Everything about the middle-east is about oil.  If it isn't about oil then we aren't involved.  Why do you think Africa gets ignored so much?


well said,there is no getting around the blame of the british over the years but of course the populations of countries still determine how they are ruled and have to take responsibility at some point

i'm not saying anything is right or wrong in say iran for exapmle because what do i know



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