kowenicki said:
withdreday said:
kowenicki said:
withdreday said:
kowenicki said:
withdreday said:
CGI-Quality said:
withdreday said:
Jeez, what are they trying to do, give the console lead to Sony?
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Even if the PS3 passes the 360, the "console lead" belongs to the Wii. Second, we don't know what Microsoft is planning (outside of this bundle).
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Regardless, I'm sure neither of them wants the legendary 3rd place.
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1. Of course they can afford it and are making healthy profits on hardware
2." The legendary 3rd place"? do you just make that up? I dont recall such a legend.
3. If Sony release their new slimmer slim at a much reduced price then they are dummer than even I thought they were.... Why bother with a new cheaper iteration if all you do is pass that on to the consumer? In normal circumstance perhaps you can argue this is a good move but in Sony's current state thats idiotic.
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1. I'm still looking for concrete numbers on that.
2. It was a bit of sacrasm, surely you aren't that dense.
3. Idiodic? Despite the fact that Sony has a half a billion to spend on GaiKai, and the 3 revised slims plan worked out well on the PS2 and a lower price point will lead to greater sales?
Yeah, I think most companies aim to be "idiodic" like that.
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1. Google it, I'm sure its there somerhwere..
2. Dense? no but you may have something as "sacrasm" isnt something I am familiar with... (sarcasm?)
3. Sony are spending to accumulate... giving money away to consumers doesnt fall into that bracket... what the hell does the PS2 have to do with anything? I see you are one of those sony fans still living in the past and in complete denial about the very perilous state that Sony finds itself in.
What I am proposing would actually help Sony... reduced manufacturing costs but retain the retail price, or perhaps a slight price reduction, but why give money away when you are selling the most weekly anyway?
Now perhaps your can remove your fan glasses and comment with some sensible and non insulting views from a good business planning perspective.
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1. Still looking...
2. It was the Auto correct. Get over it.
3. Because the more people who buy the system, buys games and downloads stuff online. And that's where most gaming companies make their cash from. Licensing fees and online revenue. Microsoft took a huge loss at the start of this gen just to get the 360 in people's living rooms to buy games and get on Live. If you don't know the industry too well, then it's best not to come in pretending to be an expert.
And what does it have to do with the PS2? That's the damn business model that's they've been following since the PS1 days and it's lead to millions of sales. That's how people knew it would eventually be a PS3 slim.
Please don't tell me you're this clueless...
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you are a very angry young man arent you.... relax... you dont have to end every post with an insult.
3. .... and yet still Sony hasnt made a single cent from gaming... go do some research. Any profts from PS1 and PS2 (and believe me there wasnt that much considering their domination) more than evaporated with PS3. So that business model isnt working is it. Nintendo has a business model that works and it isn't based on the vanity of market share but on being profitable from day one. MS lost money at the beginning of this gen primarily due to RROD, if RROD hadnt existed then MS would have been creaming it in even earlier than they actually achieved, according to you the 360 managed over a $1.32bn profit in 2011 without hardware being profitable?
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Read this link from joystiq - http://www.joystiq.com/2005/12/28/xbox-360-costs-715-to-make/ The 360 actually wasn't even close to profitable at launch mainly because they doubled the planned ram.
And if anything, the PS3 scuffled because they veered away from their business model, and went for fresh, expensive tech in Blu-ray(which cost a whooping 1000 bucks per drive). The business model of selling at a loss to increase market share in the beginning and getting it back through software sales isn't going anywhere anytime soon, unless you want every next gen console to be the Wii.
