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prayformojo said:
My prediction? The Wii U is Nintendo's Gamecube all over again. The thing people forget about Nintendo is, they've really only ever had two commercially dominant systems, the NES and Wii. The SNES was beaten by Sega for most of it's life cycle and the N64 and Gamecube were both completely destroyed.

The only reason the Wii was such a commercial success is because it was the "it" thing to own for a few years. People who didn't know what a video game was bought it because it was "cool". Nintendo failed, somehow, to realize that trends like this implode in on themselves and made the error of going "all out" with casual gaming. They didn't think about the fact that by doing so, they were going to lose the core which are the ones who will ALWAYS be around. So basically, the casual left the party when the party wasn't "cool" anymore, and the core were offended and moved on to Sony and Microsoft. Now, who's left? Basically, just Nintendo die hard which were the ones buying and supporting the Gamecube and there aren't even close to enough of them to make a difference next gen. So I predict a gloomy, dead last for them.


Ah, only two posts.. Big surprise there, since this is one of the most ignorant posts I've ever read on the site. 

What on earth give you any indication that this console will sell anywhere near Gamecube? I mean, other than the fact that this is what you WANT to happen? Please, look at the games revealed already. The monster that is NSMB alone will ensure that Wii U doesn't touch Gamecube in futility. 2D Mario games sell consoles, it's a fact. Look at all the Nintendo consoles that have had 2D Mario games: NES, Super NES, and Wii. It is not coincidence that those also happen to be their most successful ones

Then you've got the mega hits Just Dance and Wii Fit hitting as well, and the inevitable Smash Brothers, Mario Kart, Zelda, etc. Also, Nintendo actually has a strong lineup of third party titles this time, with Mass Effect 3, Assassin's Creed 3, Darksiders, Ninja Gaiden, etc. I know I'm contradicting myself a bit here as I said in a pervious post that no one knows how the Wii U will sell, but there is absolutely no way Nintendo only manages 22 million with this console.

Your second paragraph just reeks of the same bs propaganda I've heard spouted constantly for years from the mainstream gaming media, developers, and forum dwelling nerds. The reason Wii stopped selling was a lack of games at the end. Wii had quality games - it sold. Wii stopped having quality games, it stopped selling. Period. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. "Teh cazuals", these mythical gamers that all the self proclaimed hardcore love to talk about to make themselves feel superior, have nothing to do with it. That's because they do not exist. They, along with "casual games," are a MYTH, created by the industry to attempt to separate gamers into demographics and as a piss poor excuse to explain the Wii's success. You also contradict yourself by saying Nintendo lost the core gamers, but also that they only have the "diehard Nintendo gamers." Well which is it? Are Nintendo diehards not core?

Now, I'm not saying this console will surpass or even reach Wii levels of success. I actually think it'll be closer to NES level. But still, claiming Gamecube level success, with this lineup so far, is so presumptuous and unlikely that I can only conclude that this is merely your wet dream of what you WISH would happen, not what you think could happen based off any evidence or logic.. I also love how sure you are that Sony and MS will beat Nintendo, when their consoles and prices have yet to even be unveiled, let alone a single game for them..