M.U.G.E.N said:
thranx said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
thranx said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Again I don't get what you guys are going on about.
Patents? Really? You do realize ALL companies have a huge amount of patents right? Have you gone through sony patents to confirm they do not? I assure you they will as well
Sony have brought cloud to gaming as well. Correct me if I'm wrong but they were the first to bring it to consoles. They already use it in their other services and devices. But by definition to 'catch up' there should be something material to catch up to. MS has shown nothing comparable to Gaikai. Sony now have Gaikai's tech and all their assets with this investment. Fact of the matter is you and sales both are using things that have yet to be shown as justification for this statement, which is nonsesense.
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Did you go to the link i posted. MS has sold their cloud services to other companies, to regualr consumers, and to governments. Until sony can offer their clouds services in that way they are playing catch up. They bought Gaikai to cath up, you just mentioned it as a way they are ahead of ms, had they not bought Gaikai they could not have used it to catch up like they did. Hence them using Gaikai to catch up. I agree MS does not offer streaming of games, but neither does sony, gaikai offers streaming of demos. MS has infrastructure for cloud services and currently sell cloud services. Does sony do that? did they do that before they bought gaikai? Cathcing up for sony is not in the console space but in cloud computing in general. I am not trying to knock sony here, it appears they may the first to bring streaming games to consoles, but that doesn't mean they dont have a lot to do to cathc up to ms as far as cloud services go.
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You see you are spreading your focus all over the place now. Sony does have cloud based services so I'm sure they have infrastructure as well.
Fact of the matter is this whole situation is about Gaikai yes? What does Gaikai do? Have MS shown anything similar to that so far? Answer is No. It doesn't matter if MS have cloud services for fisherman in alaska, the topic at hand is about Gaming. To say sony is catching up with this perticular investment, then MS should have something before this to show for, that compares to what Gaikai is doing. They do not. Sony do not care about all areas of cloud, they are not MS and hence their business focuses are different. That is why you should stop taking this PR about MS and cloud in other industries and focus on the investment at hand. It's like saying Nintendo is playing catch up to touch screen with the DS or something because MS had touch screen patents and whatnot beforehand.
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Before sony bought Gaikai their cloud service was not as robust as mS was it? Now that they bought gaikai their cloud service is better. They used the purchase of gaikai to catch up to waht ms has been building. dont know how else to explain it. Unless you think that sony's cloud services match MS before their purchase of gaikai.
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@the bolded: how is that even related here? Sony have done well in the implimentation of cloud where it has mattered to 'them' as a company. These are two very different companies with multiple areas of focus but not many of them overlap. Sure MS have done work with cloud in other areas but that does not matter to sony. To them cloud in music, games, and movies are what's important. No way are they playing catch up to MS in that regard now are they? It's all about perspective and the OP article is full of PR spin. Fact of the matter is Sony have made the first major move into cloud console gaming with gaikai. MS have not.
@Criss: yep and I guessed exactly what your post will be like as well :P Typical
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For the bolded: Is that not what we are talking about?
MS is doing alot of stuff with music and the cloud. They are getting ready to let you host your music on a cloud service and play it from anywhere, just working out the deals with the RIAA. MS and sony will clash a lot on cloud services, also with google and apple. They all want to consumers to use their box/device/cell phone/ what ever you use to display their info and they want consumers to use their service (or cloud). I hope to see a lot of compition there. Things are just getting started. But I will agree alot of what MS has talked about is not launched yet. I dont want to keep a pointless arguing going though so I will leave it at this. It does look like Sony will be the first to bring streaming games to consoles as MS has not talked about that as far as I know. But in the other areas you should check out some of MS anouncements, along with Google and Apple. They all have a big fight coming and ill all be more even more focused on each othr in every area of their business. Sony has huge advantage in that they are content holders of almost all the music and alot of movies so no matter what they will win out in licening that content, but i think they are the furthest behind in infrastructer. Glad we were able to have this disussion.
