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richardhutnik on 02 July 2012
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Kasz216 said:
richardhutnik said:
Rath said:
I'm interested in what Obama's second term (if he gets re-elected, which seems likely) will be like. Generally second terms seem to be when presidents get the most done, it'll be interesting to see what happens if he gets handed a majority in congress again.

Latest predictions is that Democrats will likely lose even more seats in the house, and have a chance for the GOP to take over, or at least have more seats than the Democrats in the Senate. With the Independents, the GOP doesn't get a majority vote.  Obama isn't likely to get any help.

Is that so?  Last I had heard they expected the Democrats to make gains in the house, but end up losing the Senate. (Mostly structural reasons, there were like 3 times as many "at play" senators)

Of course that was 3+ months ago, didn't realize things had turned against the democrats.

Sorry, I stand correction.  I think I remembered it as control of the different houses of congress, the white house and so on:

http://www.electionprojection.com/2012elections/house12.php

The Democratic gains will be close to zero.  The GOP has a chance of getting to 50, and splitting between Democrats and independents:

http://www.electionprojection.com/2012elections/senate12.php

 

The point I think I was going for is Obama isn't likely to get any help from this election, he gets reelected.  And it will be interesting to see what the GOP does, if Obama gets relected and these results are there.  Obama will be in the final term, and likely play even harder ball, or maybe do things so the GOP goes so right wing, and Obama runs like crazy to try to compromise, the GOP ends up pushing itself way out of the mainstream.  What will likely see is Obama pushes to have the middle class tax cuts made permanent, while letting them lapse on the upper end, and try to tweak the budget cuts set to kick in automatically, and the GOP will say no.  The Bush tax cuts will expire, along with the cross-the board budget cuts kick in, and then the political games by Obama are to make the GOP fall so far out of the mainstream America gets sick of it all.