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richardhutnik said:

The second part is an example of why I have issues, and what makes someone a fanboy.  A fanboy ends up having adoration for a given object, but that adoration has little to no impact on any other part of their life in a positive way.  It was given as one personal example, one of numbers I could of given.  

I think your second sentence may go to the root of the issue, particularly on the area of love: People are not perfect and because he loves Jesus doesn't mean he has to be.

Just because someone adores Jesus, that suddenly makes what they have as flaws ok?  Maybe that is what fanboys actually do think.  It might explain why they act that way.  They think they are ok, thankful Jesus isn't going to sent them to hell, and then they have to go around converting everyone, because some preacher put pressure on them to go "win souls", and they don't want to have the guilt of souls going to hell on them, or disappointing Jesus some day.

I don't think adoring Jesus is the key part of this, nor is it what the Bible goes into regarding what real love means, and loving Jesus.

 

I don't think I have ever met a true Christian that uses Jesus as an excuse to behave badly.  I know there are a lot of misguided ones who end up dong bad but that different from someone who would self consciously behave badly because they know Jesus loves them.

It seems more a problem with hypocrisy.  Preaching certain ideals with no follow through.  This plagues Christians as they often preach to be like Jesus, which to a believer is perfect.  So of course there is going to be hypocrisy when they don't live up to that standard.

You’re telling me the root cause for this one guy’s behavior is his Jesus fandom but I don't think that true.  The root cause for his behavior is being human, your anger at him is because of his fandom, but I think its miss guided anger at this one person.  Be angry at him for sucking, not for liking Jesus.  It is a personal issue though so, I don't have all the information.  Maybe his level of hypocrisy crosses the line, like him calling you out for stuff that he himself doesn't do.

 

I have tried to avoid going down the hypocrisy path, because I am not sure that fits.  There are a number of ways people fall short:

* The are ignorant of what standard they uphold or name.

* The practice fraud to score points with people, in order to gain advantages.  I consider this hypocrisy.

* They strive to achieve high standards and fall short.  This will look like hypocrisy, but genuinely isn't.

 

In the general my issue with fanboys, it is probably far more of the first, of a system that is built upon not really teaching what Jesus said, ignoring what was said systemically, and props up a system that is nothing more than hell avoidance.  People are sold it, and then run off with it, believing they have the answer.  Then, they end up doing a large degree of harm, and turn people off and don't see it.  They could do this so much, they people who are the shilling Jesus fanboys end up believing their being rejected is a sign of a work of Satan, and then they end up like the Westboro Baptist Church, and get all angry.

Because of this view, I am not about to go and place hypocrisy here.  I think also, a bunch of this is probably me having to come to grips with how much off things are and the prospects that it isn't going to be different.  So, you see sorting through personal issues on my part.