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happydolphin said:
richardhutnik said:

Some areas aren't just about people being human, because there is more, far more, at stake.  When God is brought in via name, etc... then there ends up being more involved.  If I want to be sincere and accurate, it become part of it to look beyond humans and their personal flaws.  

No it doesn't. That's called prejudice my friend, and it's wrong. You shouldn't judge a person on their religion.

If a person strives to be like Christ, it doesn't make them Christ. Yes God holds them up to a higher standard, because he's their coach, but the audience has no right to complain when the player falls short. If he's not good enough, let him play in a lower league. Plus he's your friend, stop judging him.

If he judged you before, he was wrong. Don't let it lead you into making the same mistake. I know it's hard, but break the cycle before you rip each others' heads off.

I am ripping off no one's head.  In the personal case, I just count the game as lost, let him try to contact me one day, if that, and not lend out thing any longer to him.  If he wants to show signs of anything but a user, that is fine.  It is his job to initiate, not mine.  I tried calling day after day asking for a response and didn't get any.  And then got complaints about the daily calling.  So I back off now.  I don't call any longer and count what it was is loss.  I don't demand repayment, forgive the debt, and don't ask him to repay.  I end up being more mindful and wiser.

Beyond this, it still doesn't even address the whole fusing of a form of Jesus in politics with individuals who insist on believing Rand and Jesus are compatible.  Nor does it even begin to deal with those who beat the drums of hate over this group or that, in the name of Jesus.  And it certainly doesn't dismiss the numbers of people who turn away from Christ, because of the said followers.  And this doesn't even get into the stuff I have personally seen at all.  You can see in another thread on here, where my personal issues lie with how some people do respond, people who are mean mainly.

For me, forgiveness is not demanding something from someone who wrong you, to make amends.  It is not a free ticket for the person to turn me into a matt to run over and exploit and abuse, or anyone else for that matter.  I also have to deal with the reality of a harsh world, and a markeplace that demands I produce or I go without.  I personally don't think it is wrong to have high standards with those I would trust.