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richardhutnik said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Not even God would support this argument. You are judging these kids and giving them a premature death, meaning that they will have no chance to say sorry to their victims or somehow make up for their mistakes. I mean, they are still kids for crying out loud.

Don't play God.

Edit: Also, about those initiatives that you are talking about in your last line. Do they include killing those with the worst bullying habits?

You are an anti-theist, who has used arguments on here to try to get people to stop believing in God.  I don't think you are qualified to speak about what God would or would not support.  You actually aren't qualified to speak on anything connected with a mental construct you don't consider real.

In regards to them being "still kids" for crying out loud.  The kids on the bus fully knew what they were doing.  They were intentionally inflicting pain and suffering on the bus mom.  It is like the young men in the Bible story who got mauled to death by female bears for taunting someone for being bald and other things connected with degree of holiness.   They are being cruel and evil.  And who are you to say what is "premature" or not?  Way life works, you act in the wrong manner, you die from it.  Only thing that would save someone from this is a degree of mercy and compassion.

In regards to initiatives supported, I don't believe coersion is the answer to anything out there.  However, if individuals who lack mercy and compassion, and bully, suffer a fate that is horrible due to their situation, I don't shed a tear over them at all.  This includes bullies getting mauled by bears.  Call it karma if you like.  My first preference is redemption for all, even the worst.  A key to redemption is actual change though, not some sort of cheap grace where you steal a bike you want, ask for forgiveness, and don't return it.

Why would I not be qualified after being Christian for 16 years? I know how Christians resonate and I know that it is up to God to judge people (unlike what you suggest we may do).

By killing bullies after they have made others' lives a misery you are trying to give them a short-cut to hell. And since when was it okay to kill people, according to God? That is also a major flaw in the US's reasoning where they kill people for their actions, as if the ten commandments allowed killing.

The kids on the bus obviously knew what they were doing, but the problem is not them choosing to do it. The problem is that they were not raised to understand how horrible it may feel to be the victim of such actions. And your ridiculous laws regarding "freedom of speech" where this kind of actions are legal are obviously not helping.

On another note: What makes you better than Hitler? Hitler wanted to kill people with certain skin colours and beliefs, you want to kill people who lack sympathy, mercy and compassion. In other words: People's deaths will be affected by their heritage. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Heritage will affect your choices in life. And they will be even more dependant on your parents and the society where you grow up (none of which are chosen by the individual), especially when we are talking about kids. So, where does the line go? How do I know if killing the neighbours' kid who bullied my kid is justified?

This entire discussion is absurd, and I'm not surprised at all that I'm talking to an American out of all nationalities.