Some kids should get mauled to death by some she-bears.

[richardhutnik]

Kantor said:

richardhutnik said:

You are an anti-theist, who has used arguments on here to try to get people to stop believing in God.  I don't think you are qualified to speak about what God would or would not support.  You actually aren't qualified to speak on anything connected with a mental construct you don't consider real.

In regards to them being "still kids" for crying out loud.  The kids on the bus fully knew what they were doing.  They were intentionally inflicting pain and suffering on the bus mom.  It is like the young men in the Bible story who got mauled to death by female bears for taunting someone for being bald and other mocking there.   They are being cruel and evil.  And who are you to say what is "premature" or not?  Way life works, you act in the wrong manner, you die from it.  Only thing that would save someone from this is a degree of mercy and compassion.

In regards to initiatives supported, I don't believe coersion is the answer to anything out there.  However, if individuals who lack mercy and compassion, and bully, suffer a fate that is horrible due to their situation, I don't shed a tear over them at all.  This includes bullies getting mauled by bears.  Call it karma if you like.  My first preference is redemption for all, even the worst.  A key to redemption is actual change though, not some sort of cheap grace where you steal a bike you want, ask for forgiveness, and don't return it.

I thought you were being facetious with the whole "children being mauled by bears" thing but it's becoming worryingly likely that you're actually serious :/

No, being clawed to death by wild animals is not a valid punishment for bullying, or anything else. Indeed, I don't see that this should result in a criminal prosecution at all. I approve of the suspension of the kids involved, but nothing more.

May I just say, you are a very peculiar liberal. I'm guessing you would oppose the death penalty for murder, but apparently it's okay for a bunch of kids who make fun of an old lady on a bus.

Take what I say as a person who is currently on the wrong side of things, and see on the internet things with people displaying the worst and most cruel of behaviors, and personally had been subject of such insults.  Like, one guy who says I should kill myself so his taxes would be lower.  Others, when I saw what was said with Occupy, advocated the use of lethal force.  You see political rhetoric like this and a lack of compassion.  And in my youth, I experienced a lot of bullying.  I have seen a lot of bad things out there, and have issues with things.

Reality is that I am arguably NOT a liberal.  You can call my political views peculiar, and they are.  I now tend to hang out more on the anarchist side of things.  I also have ethics somewhat in line with the Bible (at least core Christian values).  They are my own views, one of a person on a journey, likely not able to fully enlighten and inform, but hopefully can get people to ask better questions, and act better to one another.  

I am not in support of the death penalty, and my preference would be that people end up changing.  I am also pro-life, but non-legistlative, which makes me seem to be pro choice.  I don't believe the government is effective at much of anything.  So, end result is that if individuals who are lacking in basic compassion get what they dish out, based on their own view of things, it is fitting.  Maybe call it a system of justice, based on irony, out of the Twilight Zone.  Well, consider it fortunate I am not in government.  I also don't believe in artificial constructs like punishment and deterents, the use of more suffering to offset and deter other suffering.  So, what I come from isn't punishment, but more a chain of causality consequences.

Oh the last part, I would say it was ok for cruel kids to get mauled by bears, not to mock the old lady.  I am assuming you meant to say that as the last part of it but it got cut off short.