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Slimebeast said:

Then just forget that I used the term "pre-determined" if that makes it easier for you. Just swap it to "lack of free will", because that was my point.

The point is that you took a narrow but popular field (the ethics of crime) where your conclusion has far wider implications (that morals don't exist).


So I guess this is your point: "morals simply cease to exist, from which follows that you should not just feel sorry for criminals, you should feel sorry for everybody, and never condemn anybody for anything."

I'm not sure why you should feel sorry for people who manage to enjoy life (as long as it doesn't result in others suffering), so I don't see where you are going with this.

Morals were invented by humans, happiness and sadness were not.