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kain_kusanagi said:
binary solo said:
I agree with her deconverting from atheism, but I find Catholicism in general and the "moral framework" of it in particular to be an odd choice. Christianity as a whole is out of date, Catholicism especially so.


There are two driving forces in the Catholic Church. Faith and tradition. I would say faith can never become out of date. As for Catholic traditions, yes many may seem out of date, but within a generation many may change. For instance right now some priests from another church are being alowed to convert and be Catholic priests even though they are married and have children. It's possible that in the near future this will cause a rift that may alow all Catholic priests to marry. It's a tradition not a law. As for the moral framework of the Catholic Church, it tries to follow Jesus's teachings about forgiveness, love, etc. as openly as possible. But like I said I don't think that goes out of style.

I put priests (ordained clergy in general) and confession into the Catholic "moral framework". Both are very outdated and will never come back into currency. Indeed I'd suggest confession should never have been part of Christianity in the first place. Then there's the contraception thing and divorce. How are those moral doctrines sustainable when a great many Catholics don't abide by them? Heaven and hell are also part of the Christian/Catholic moral framework and they are not sustainable moral concepts, IMO, the way they are envisioned in Christianity.

Love, forgiveness, service, generosity, honesty etc are universal and eternal religious values. But that's a religious moral framework in general, not Christian or Catholic. It's the detailed doctrines of the particular religion / sect that creates the unique moral framework for a given faith.



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