kanageddaamen said:
Adinnieken said:
kanageddaamen said:
Seeing as the ACTUAL courts ruled otherwise, your implication of lack of knowledge may be misplaced. But I will chock that up to an obtuse opinion that you know better than a judge, and hence are either fairly unintelligent, or and ego-maniac and not worth debating with.
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No, the actual courts did not rule otherwise. The ITC judge ruled that both Microsoft and Motorola were infringed on the other's patents. Motorola infringed on Microsoft's ActiveSync patent (a non-standards patent) and therefore ruled that Motorola mobile devices should be banned. As well, the ITC ruled that Microsoft's Windows products and Xbox 360 infringed on Motorola's H.264 and Wi-Fi patent, both standards patents. The preliminary finding by the ITC judge is that the Xbox 360 should be banned from import, however the full ITC body has yet to make its decision on the matter. The ban on Motorola products is in effect, as President Obama has issued the order.
The ITC could determine that Motorola failed to license its standards patents under fair, reasonable, and nondiscriminatory terms. If they do that, then Motorola will have to go back to the table with more reasonable licensing terms.
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I never made any claims over the ban, just that the courts ruled that MS infringed on the patents, which they have. Again, I do not care for the ban, simply the enforcement of payment for copyright material. I personally don't find the offer unreasonable from Motorola, but MS must have felt otherwise and that they had more to gain financially from rejecting it than paying it. We will see how the courts decide finally.
The whole crux of my argument is against the mentality in the thread that MS should pay NOTHING (not saying you said that, but there is certain implication to that fact) and that patent law is somehow damaging to consumers, which I reject.
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Who implied MS should pay nothing? That's just silly, can't see that anybody said that?
Patent law is damaging to consumers? Try telling all the people dying of AIDS in Africa patent law isn't damaging to consumers...
Patent law is a tearing society apart and killing millions as we speak, the patent system itself is a good one clearly, but patent law has been mutilated and doctored over the years to exploit the biggest dollar for the least work and provide a never ending revenue stream for the inventor, that was NEVER the intention of patented ideas in the first place. It was to facilitate an inventor being rewarded appropriately for their invention.
It's like you have some kind of delusion that patent holders these days are like Da Vinci with his helicoptor blueprints! Patent holders have managed to get the laws twisted in their favour, through throwing the profits around they have acquired from their patents...
It's all linked to copyright law and don't tell me the recent movements on that in the US and EU on extending copyright are good news too for "our inventors", uhhhh I mean big businesses out to exploit every penny they can using every trick in the book from brain washing children to outright corruption and indirectly, happily causing the death of others as a result.
Go dude!
As long as the inventors get their money eh ;)
