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Kasz216 on 21 June 2012
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richardhutnik said:
Kasz216 said:
6) Shrinking is the first way to fixing.  In an ideal world... a Libretarian would come in and knock EVERTHIYNG down.  Then everything could be rebuilt from the bottom up.

It's impossible to reform anything in the US government... because reform would require those who support to programs to admit they're flawed.

The only way to get reform is to remove and replace... or have a GIANT disaster that can't be ignored anymore.  Like why the VA hosptials got reformed. 

My understand is that, yes Libertarians want to tear everything down.  But they generally have the belief that, somehow, the markets will magically rebuild everything and everyone will be better off with the pricing mechanism being the answer to everything.  Libertarians believe that everything has a market answer including fire protection, because I guess they believe fires will magically not jump onto property of people who paid who live next door, and you need some death in fires to make people pay up for their fire protection.  

Right... and that will last, at most two presidential terms... people will miss a lot of the shit libretarians knocked down... a lot of the libretarians will be replaced and a lot of the social programs and regulations we have now will come back more simplified and better, because the regulatory system will be written in one go leaving out the regulations that didn't work at all,  and that often prevent better reuglations.  Nobody is willing to use new ideas now... and even if they were chances are they'd fail due to the level of bloat and worthless programs already in existence.  For example pretty much EVERYONE agrees we're spending too much.  How much money could really go to  a "Minority wealth bank" When we have so many failed agencies and failed policies and programs to help minorities?

Oh and as for fire protection... magicaly jumping on other peoples houses really isn't an issue, as I recall there was a stroy about a year ago about a guy who refused to pay his fire taxes so the city let his house burn down... putting out only fires that spread elsewhere/when it became a huge risk.