happydolphin said:
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I saw that yesterday http://dvice.com/archives/2012/06/hands-on-new-xb.php
so it confirms what I thought it will be seemless connection through wi-fi for the smartglass...
but to go back on your debate.... you are assuming that the casual part of the Wii crowd will be in for the WiiU that's where I have my doubts.... I have no problem admitting it is a nice product in line with nintendo tradition and a lot of gamers and nintendo fans will be on board and therefor the WiiU will be probably successful.... but that pad and the graphic bump up won't be enough IMHO to stimulate the craze you had in the casual market for the Wii and the motion control.... they might switch later on but by then the other players (sony/MS) will be on the market too.... I doubt WiiU will have the success and jump in sales over Sony and MS they did this gen..... unless they do a massive add campaign and even then.... I don't see the appeal they can incure toward that crowd....especially with that name.... we are talking about casuals will they even realise WiiU is a new product.... I mean I know tons of casual that have no interest in gaming more than the couple games they have that still don't really know the diff between a PS3 or PS2 or even XB at some point playstation was almost a generic term in the casual market.... ask gamestop employees when they have momies coming in to buy games for the kids.....
we'll see but I have very little faith on the fact that the amount of casual that got into gaming this gen will switch to next gen that easily.... and I also think that for MS if marketed right win8 phones, tablets and the next XB could end up more appealing to that crowd because of the cross compatibility.... don't forget that a company like MS will be pushing their eccosystem on more than just the gaming side of thing within 2 years.... that might play this time arround....
I'm not saying MS will take the crown.... but I think their is definately a lot of unknown on where the casual crowd will go and when.....and that's also why I think something like smartglass is a really smart move from MS....
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I can't argue much with this post, and the tablet point at the end is a good one, they are massively owned, so it's a good platform to tap into.
Ultimately, we have two different opinions as to how successful the WiiU will be, but knowing Nintendo, I truly believe they will surprise many people, as their success is always counter-intuitive.
Then again, when it comes to the actual debate, I think we've come full circle to say that the last thing the SG does is making the WiiU pad irrelevant, they are two very different market propositions, each with their strengths and weaknesses.
I enjoyed this discussion and let's hold onto our seats as we watch the gen go along with excitement (as usual  ).
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well I'm too lazy to start another post. but yeah SG is not the same IMO than the WiiU pad and won't make it irrelevent.
I also have faith in nintendo about having good sales.
I'm just saying out of the 200 millions in house console customers this generation (more or less) I'm not sure the casual slice of the pie will shift that easy whether they have a Wii a PS3 with move or an XB with Kinect.... the tech savy ones yeah....
but you have countless of retirement home, day care centers, older adults that bought a Wii for various reason and still have only 3 games (Wii sport, Wii fitness and maybe an other big one) and never bought anything else since.... that I don't think will even realise a new console is out or even if they do if they will look into it. he kind of people that buy a TV and keep it until it dies not until something better and new comes out.... the same crowd that still have computers at home running on win 95.
people like you and me are not the core market that Wii attracted at the begining. I remember my 93 years old grand ma talking about some of her lady friend talking about buying Wii's for when the children and/or grand children where around. not sure WiiU will have the same appeal to that specific crowd...
