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EdHieron on 12 June 2012
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Khuutra said:
EdHieron said:
Khuutra said:

No, see, the joke is that I live in Ontario, so... you know what, nevermind

My point was that "adult games" aren't really the realm of adults, so to speak. I played Hogan's Alley when I was very small, and Mortal Kombat and Turok when I was not much older. Ever since I was a kid, I haven't cared about "kiddy" games versus "adult" games, because the distinction doesn't exist for me. I liked Turok because it let me shoot dinosaurs. I liked Mario because it let me throw Bowser face-first into a giant spikey bomb (and, I'll be honest, because it let me wear a hat with wings on it and fly around IN 3D SPACE).

The mean average of Wii players is something like 30, which is higher than any other console. The DS is something like five years below that, I think? I guess I could look that up.

You cannot possibly claim that you play games for reasons that are opposed to escapism. That is preposterous. You have General butt-slapping Raam as your avatar. It doesn't fly.

I think the problem here is that your delineation between games for kids vs. games for adults is - well, it's unsupported! You haven't outlined what "mature" is, what "for adults" is, or anything like that. What makes Turok for adults, rather than for kids? What makes Mario for kids, but not for adults? These are questions you need to answer to support your point.

You know all the thug life elements of GTA, the mature love stories and sex  in games like Mass Effect, and the over the top violence and sex in God of War and Bayonetta that makes those games such incredibly fun guilty pleasures?  Those things aren't really supposed to be geared towards kids.  And Nintendo hasn't demonstrated that they're very open to having those kinds of experiences on their Disneyfied consoles.  Matter of fact the last time they tried with Platinum's Madworld, they were heavilly criticized by their casual audience and apparently got gunshy about them since there hasn't been a game of that type on one of their consoles since No More Heroes II and Muramasa. 

The sex in Mass Effect is probably the least well-handled aspect of the romances in Mass Effect; everything about them that really matters is completely T-rated, and wouldn't be out of place in a Fire Emblem game.

There isn't really any sex to speak of in Bayonetta.

Nintendo does not actively put leashes on the kinds of games released on their cdonsoles. Mad World was a third party title, all M-rated games on the Wii are third-party titles, and Nintendo doesn't stop anyone from makign them. How "welcome" they are has nothing to do with Nintendo's efforts.

I am more or less positive that the bolded never happened, and I defy you to prove that it did.

Muramasa wouldn't really qualify for this discussion, though CoDMW3 would, I guess.

Anyway.

So your'e suggesting that "mature" or "adult" games are necessarily games that include elements or themes that the majority of American parents would find inappropriate for their children, normalized across cultures to weed out the fact that everyone lets their teenagers play GTA, or what?

Challenge Accepted, "' The release of MadWorld for the Wii brings violent videogames to a once family-friendly platform," said Dr. David Walsh, president of the National Institute on Media and the Family. "In MadWorld, gamers use the Wii Remote to make the necessary physical actions to chainsaw an opponent in half, impale an enemy with a signpost or decapitate a victim with a golf club. MadWorld is another reminder that parents need to make sure they watch what their kids watch and play what their kids play. 

"In the past, the Wii has successfully sold itself as being the gaming console for the entire family and a way to bring family-game nights back into people's living rooms. Unfortunately, Nintendo opened its doors to the violent videogame genre. The National Institute on Media and the Family hopes that Nintendo does not lose sight of its initial audience and continues to offer quality, family-friendly games." 

from National Institute on Media and The Family (one of the leading Conservative Watchdog groups in the US) disappointed with Madworld IGN article

  ( http://wii.ign.com/articles/960/960820p1.html )

And, I'm sure this was hyped at the time by the likes of Fox News sending millions of blue haired grandmas into a tizzy of Wii hate and most likely playing a part in the fact that Nintendo really hasn't hyped mature themed games since.

 

Ideally parents wouldn't be lazy enough in their duties that they let their kids play games like GTA as that would keep lawsuits like those over "Hot Coffee" (  http://www.tgdaily.com/games/38124-gta-%E2%80%98hot-coffee%E2%80%99-lawsuit-means-big-bucks-for-lawyers-small-change-for-regular-folks ) or the ones that Jack Thompson was involved with (   http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147722,00.html ) from being carried out since its obviously the parents' fault and not the game's if they let their kid play a mature themed game and either see something they shouldn't or carry out some random act of violence as a result of playing the game, and it also in my opinion dilutes the product if developers know that they're making high quality mature themed games that "wink wink nudge nudge" are actually aimed at a teenage demographic.