Bad Conference = Bad Console? ( You tube video abotu wii u, thats really great)

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Khuutra said:

sales2099 said:

Khuutra said:

Listen Canadian.

When I was a stripling I played me some Turok, and before that I played me some Mortal Kombat, and before that I played me some Hogan's Alley.

The fact of the matter is, appreciation for Gears-like properties isn't really tied into your age. Neither is Mario, insofar as that goes. Mario isn't just for kids - it's for you, too, if you will but pick it up.

Whats with the italicized Canadian? I get the vibe your talking down to me cause of my nationality.....

Turok and Mortal Kombat arent Nintendo made games. My point, which you only reinforced, is that Nintendo is a kids company first, and uses 3rd parties for the adult gamer.

Ive heard the Mario isnt tied to age argument so many times but fact is when the majority of Nintendos 1st party IP's are played by children, you know they dont have adult gamers in their mind.

They may be core games, but not "mature core games" like ZombieU. Im sorry if I am at a place in my life where I want a mature look along with characters and plot. Nintendo just doesnt deliever that. 

Thats why their E3 was the worst in my eyes...their games are meant for the tweens of today, not the ones of yesterday (us).

Maybe adults who play Nintendo 1st party games try to cling to their youth as a way of feeling young and escape the responsibilities of daily life. I dont know, but what I do know is that mentality is not for me. 

No, see, the joke is that I live in Ontario, so... you know what, nevermind

My point was that "adult games" aren't really the realm of adults, so to speak. I played Hogan's Alley when I was very small, and Mortal Kombat and Turok when I was not much older. Ever since I was a kid, I haven't cared about "kiddy" games versus "adult" games, because the distinction doesn't exist for me. I liked Turok because it let me shoot dinosaurs. I liked Mario because it let me throw Bowser face-first into a giant spikey bomb (and, I'll be honest, because it let me wear a hat with wings on it and fly around IN 3D SPACE).

The mean average of Wii players is something like 30, which is higher than any other console. The DS is something like five years below that, I think? I guess I could look that up.

You cannot possibly claim that you play games for reasons that are opposed to escapism. That is preposterous. You have General butt-slapping Raam as your avatar. It doesn't fly.

I think the problem here is that your delineation between games for kids vs. games for adults is - well, it's unsupported! You haven't outlined what "mature" is, what "for adults" is, or anything like that. What makes Turok for adults, rather than for kids? What makes Mario for kids, but not for adults? These are questions you need to answer to support your point.

I too played Doom, Mechwarrior, and Duke Nukem as a kid. Playing games not meant for you is done by everybody. But now that im older, I just want more out of my games (plot, character developement, and art aesthetics. 

The bold means that the Wii appeals to casuals, not adult core gamers. 

Gaming is a way of escape, but I dont play Nintendo games I played as a kid now out of some misplaced notion that I wanna feel young again. I am where I am in life, and I seek a more adult type of game. This doesnt just mean the violence of Gears or COD, but more rich experiences like Mass Effect, Bioshock that Nintendo 1st party just plainly doesnt deliver. 

Thing is, its all relative. There arent any concrete views....its all personal preference. For me, if a gaming franchise looks for kids and the main install base is children, I stay away. I am disapointed Nintendo can't make 1......just 1, M rated 1st party game.