richardhutnik said:
Kasz216 said:
richardhutnik said:
If you keep this delusion going where people end up thinking they have a chance to strike it rich, they can labor for years in an area for wages that may not be able to pay for anything, but they think they will get rich. That can happen. There is not any necessary connect between what one does and the chance of it paying sufficiently to make a living. Just get things bad, and desperate enough, and have people glorify the super successful and have them believe they can be one, if they go through this, if they are "good enough" and you could get people killing each other in an arena for glory. People can sink that low, if a society lets it and people don't have any other options to lean on to. Having an "every man for themselves" culture will help to breed this.
What you describe is part of the reasons for the desire to increase social services, to prevent a mass uprising. But, if there is a political will to gut social services, and push this fend for oneself mentality, you can get people dying as a result. I remember reading in a thread on here, "I would rather die than get a handout". Multiple that N-fold, and you get a culture of death abounding, with elites on top glorified. Only thing to counter it is cultural values that cause people to stop and think a minute.
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I'd argue it'd only happen for years in one of two situations
A) Significant progress is made towards it.
B) The person who does so is under a big case of denile.
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In regards to the situations, I think a few more can be added:
A) Person faces desperation and doesn't see really any other option but to continue on. In cases of a bad economy, that can happen.
B) Person feels the area they are working in is their calling, and enjoy doing it. People do have hobbies, and it could actually be a hobby for them.
C) The environment increasing feeds into the delusions by promoting the successful, and keeps telling people anyone can make it, if they keep on
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A) I'd call that denile.
B) Then it's not a job. It's a hobby... and people are compensated for this. In terms of "Psychic Benefits".
C) There is no way this works out. Well unless you set up a system like the "End of Work" which you ideolize... which is kinda funny since you seem to view this as a negative.
I mean, i think "The end of work" will eventually come to pass, but till we're long long gone. Right now it just feels like "Star trek too soon" philosophy.
People I think REALLY underestimate Star Trek's effect on modern thinking and philosphy.
