Aielyn said:
richardhutnik said:
Aielyn said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
The thing is though that it may not have to do with God changing his mind, but that He may act depending on humans faiths. In other words: The person in need of help is depending on your support. If you don't tell God that He should help him then the person need to die, as a punishment for your lack of faith.
And then the 'Thy will be done' phrase enters the picture...
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If god needs you to tell him that you support someone in need of help, then he is not omniscient, as he is supposed to be.
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How about prayer as more of a signature on a delivery before you get it, to confirm you want it? The prayer and the amen are the confirmation to get what is to be delivered?
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Again, an omniscient god shouldn't need "confirmation", such a god should already know.
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And if the confirmation is for the recipient, and not the person shipping, and others there, then it would be part of the process. These lines of arguments are coming down to a universe where people presume that the process doesn't include people being in agreement with what happens. Does the net sum of things in the universe requiring confirmation supposed to be zero? We have the sun rising and setting, and gravity at work that don't care what people do or don't do. Is everything else supposed to be the same?
