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Turkish on 08 June 2012
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walsufnir said:
Turkish said:

I just added the number 2 to indicate itll be a newer version, it has nothing to do with my technical knowledge. The 8i is used in supercomputers and blade servers and will be 5 years old by the time PS4 launches. Who says they could not use a revised version of the Cell or 8i with more PPEs and SPEs?

http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/ibm-powerxcell-8i-processor-said-to-be-last-of-its-kind-but-cel/

IBM Vice President of Deep Computing David Turek has confirmed that the company's current PowerXCell-8i processor will be the last of its kind, and that there will not be a successor with dual PowerPC processors and 32 SPEs as originally planned. Slightly less clear, however, is the future of the Cell program in general, which will apparently live on in "another form" -- to which Turek reportedly added, somewhat vaguely, "the future is hybrid," although we're fairly certain he's not talking about cars.

Interview was 2,5 years ago, development of PS4 was already in full force by then. For sure Sony will do something with the Cell or its remnants, unless AMD offers something better.

 

And exactly what are you talking about standard pc hardware? A HD7870 will not necessarily be called an HD7870, just like the RSX is not called a 7800GT.


there will be no cell2 - why should ibm develop it? and why would sony use it? they give a damn about backwards compatibility. to program it is a mess. no, next time sony will bring on hardware which is easy to develop on, done. and this automatically excludes cell.

second, sure the cell still exists. toshiba uses it in their highly expensive entertainmend hardware. but this has nothing to do with a ps4.

third, *you* talked about cheap ram atm. but looking at console architecture it differs a lot from standard pc architecture (unified ram with xbox, extreme high bandwidths at ps3's architecture). designing a console is not "i pick some of these and some of those, stir it and *kaboom*, another console". especially consoles are highly optimized in one or another way, even single components (especially the gpus).

by now, no one can make good guesses on details on the hardware, except:

cpu: most probably x86 or ibm p7-like

ram: definitely more than ps3 and x360. type of ram totally unclear.

gpu: nvidia OR amd. no other option left, specs are speculations.

storage: who cares anyway.

odd: most probably bluray.

controller: well, i think it will look a lot like a dual-shock.

done.

I think it'll use some sort of Cell. The libraries and knowledge is there at the moment for the current makeup...its taken time but they are finally there. You've seen what the machine can do now. Going further with Cell should not be a problem for the devs that already developped for the PS3. This means PS4 will be backwards compatible too with PS3 games. A lot of people will be angry if PS4 won't run PS3 games.