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Adinnieken said:
VetteDude said:

I never said stick with the Cell. The Cell was the stupidest thing they did, luckily for them they rectified it partially by adding a rushed Nvidia GPU to the PS3 instead of just using 2 Cells for everything. That would have been doom for PS3, nobody would have developed for it. The 2012 Fusion processors use Bulldozer, see my comments on that. They should should use a Power processor OR even an ARM. A custom 6 or 8 core ARM Cortex-A15 clocked at 3.2-4GHz would perform great! (and add L3 cache).

Realistic expectations for RAM (not the fanboy ones like you said) IMO are 4GB of DDR3 (or XDR2, its probably the best RAM availible, low latency and super high speed, but RAMBUS has screwed up so many times before that nobody except Sony took them seriously on XDR, and nobody has taken them seriously about XDR2 (although the HD7900 series was rumored to use XDR2 over GDDR5, but they didn't). So I would say 4GB of DDR3 and 1GB of 256-bit GDDR5. Don't make the 128-bit mistake again, Sony. Can't afford to half the precious bandwidth.

Well the 2012 Fusion line will be Piledriver based, which is an enhanced Bulldozer.  They're expected to have up to a 30% improvement in performance and reduced power consumption over the existing line.  That's if Sony uses a 2012 Piledriver-based Fusion processor.  If they go with a 2013 Steamroller-based Fusion processor, then you're likely to see even better performance.

Not to mention, the Piledriver-based Fusions actually have a reasonably good GPU in the HD 7560D.  Mate that, using CrossFire with another AMD GPU and you've got a graphical powerhouse.

In as far as RAM goes, if it is using a Fusion processor, right now that would mean it's using DDR3.  However, who knows what an additional GPU would use.


Only thing Enhanced Bulldozer does is crank up clock speeds. That does not help the awful cache performance (important for gaming) and the embarrasing decoder (compared to Ivy Bridge). It also does not help the Integer Units either. AMD is heading the wrong way, they are trying to shove a server optimized part into desktops and improve performance by layering on cores and cranking up the clock. Sounds like the Pentium 4. If you want a great read that gets pretty technical, I recommend this article: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5057/the-bulldozer-aftermath-delving-even-deeper