| highwaystar101 said: @ Gilgamesh and Kasz (This reply applies to you both I suppose) Maybe the Incredible Hulk was a bad example (not having read it, maybe I should have gone to more familiar territory). Iron Man and Batman fall under the same category too though, their powers are conditional. If someone was to kill Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne while they were their usual selves, then it would be game over for them. Arguably Batman could beat Superman with his kryptonite ring, but most of the time Bruce Wayne doesn't wear it. If Superman killed Bruce Wayne while he wasn't prepared, he would win. If Bruce Wayne was prepared, Batman would win. It's difficult to judge who's stronger in cases like this. |
Me, I go with a straight "usuaul powerset" approach.
In otherwords, if it's Batman vs Superman.... they both get teleported to a random city and are forced to fight each other thinking each other is the enemy, with there standard equipment. So bad news for Batman.
For the title of "Strongest" you just put them up against an assortment of characters with different powersets.
Superman for example can't be the strongest because any Magic user or Transmuter that's quick enough would destroy Superman. The aforementioned Silver Surfer for example could transform objects into krytonite, suck the solar energy right out of his body or radiate red sun blasts.
I mean, Pre Crisis I sneeze away galaxies superman? One nickel's worth of Gold Kryptonite and he's rendered powerless.... FOREVER.
Dr. Manhatten could do pretty much all that. Or just blink him (or pretty much any) hero from existence.
The Hulk, while SUPER strong, would have a lot of issues that could fly out of his ranged.
Granted people like Mr. Fantastic are a bit gimped who if given enough time could invent a gun that kills about everyone... but needing that time is a weakness of his "real" super power. It's why he needs the rest of his "family" as fodder to get beat around until he kit bashes something together. (yet another reason Reed Richards is a dick!)
