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maxnyc said:
endimion said:
richardhutnik said:
endimion said:
lol at everyone wanking on nintendo r&d ms blows about any software company out of the water when it comes to r&d they have stuff in the pipeline for the next 20 years.... give me a break

Ballmer said that Microsoft has been a number of years too late to market with stuff for a reason.  They don't get first to market with about anything at all.  They take what is established, looks promising and then piles on.  Because of this, Microsoft is late to the cell phone market, and anything that Apple got into.  They were slow to the Web browser market, web search, and more.  Doesn't matter if they spend a lot on research, they just don't come to market first with much of anything, thus Ballmer went into talking about how Microsoft has been too slow.

http://brooksreview.net/2011/05/ballmer/

That is on Ballmer and Microsoft being slow to the market.  So, of course with all their said R&D they can respond with something.  Note the word RESPOND.

In regards to innovation, maybe you give Microsoft the harddrive in their console and achievements.  Windows 8 looks possibly something they are working on new.  But you are seriously going to say that Kinect DEFINED any market at all?  Kinect is a follow up based upon the work Nintendo did wih the Wii.

which is 2 different thing.... failing to move fast enough and have a huge r&d are 2 unrelated things unfortunatelly.... but even talking about apple.... MS has a think tank that makes cupernito looks like kindergarten yard... http://research.microsoft.com/apps/dp/pr/projects.aspx#p=1&ps=36&so=1&sb=&fr=&to=&fd=&td=&rt=!47194!47195&f=a&a=&pn=&pa=&pd=  that's just one of their website not even starting with all the MS subsidiary and sister/daughter companies.... so yeah far from gaming only.... but still not many company beside energy sector or automobile sector or aerospace have r&d's that can match the size and capacity of MS they have like 20 times the employee nintendo has... it's not like it is a pissing contest..... it's just a technical fact.... sony could maybe but since they have way more than softare and computing to r&d and have a lot more employees than the 2 other because they do need huge production lines....

anyway i was merely countering all the flame bait... some nintendo fans where trying to do willingly or not.... there is simply no way that nintendo can technically have a better and/or bigger r&D than ms or sony..... now smarter managers maybe but that has nothing to do with r&D


So it's not a pissing contest, but microsoft has better r&d because it's bigger?? sounds like a pissing contest to me....only problem is microsoft is incontinent

what i'm saying is with 92k employee at ms and 4+k at nintendo and most of them devs.... there is just no way in hell nintendo can even do r&d on the same scale ms does....
so yeah no contest here.... not the same category.... we are trying to compare feather weight with heavy weight.....