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sperrico87 said:

If you were able to give freely, then why would you need welfare in the first place?  I thought welfare was for people who were so disadvantaged that they couldn't afford basic food or shelter?  If you're in a position to give anything, then you shouldn't be in a position to require welfare.

I do not care at all about you being on welfare.  I think you're a leech and you should go get a job.  If you're unable to fend for yourself, then go to your family for help.  If that is not possible, then turn to a church or private charity for help.  I shouldn't be taxed so that you can get a free cell phone and not have to pay for food or housing.  That's total bullshit. 

I find it abhorrent that there's people out there who get free housing and don't have to pay for food, and they don't even have to work for a living.  That offends me greatly, and it's not what this country is all about.   When the government gives you something for free, that means they had to take it from someone else to give it to you.  It means working people like myself are heavily taxed and burdened with having to support you, all the while we don't get anything for free and once we've met all of our obligations there's usually not anything left over.  It's not fair to us that there out people out there who don't work hard and get things for free.

Points:

* People can give more than money to help people.  People can give stuff they had at one time, when they were working, and no longer need now.  People can also give their time.

* You apparently do not know how welfare works.

* You apparently know nothing about my situation, how I had to give up a part-time janitor position due to my back and went through two back surgeries and am not in a place where I am employable at this time.  You also don't realize I do get help from family and church.  

* You apparently are blind to the concept of a social contract and norms, and understand that in a nation, people aren't islands, and there is a need to maintain things.  You also, on the one hand, harp that I should get a job, but then also fail to realize the only way I am now on the path to get a job was to get surgery via Medicaid so I can be able to work.  I had a degenerative disk in my back that had to be removed.  There was NO other source to pay for it, outside of Medicaid to cover it.  This is not some sort of fictional universe where all of a suddent welfare goes poof and things go right.  Flat out, without government paying for surgery, I would of been permanently out of action the rest of my life.  But go on, and don't see how things are connected.  Believe you are a special person who isn't connected to anyone else in any way.  You can do that.  Of course, you would be detached from reality here, but that is your choice to do so.  This article would go into where you come from:

http://open.salon.com/blog/awop/2012/05/17/how_the_ayn_rand-loving_right_is_like_a_bunch_of_teenage_boys_gone_crazy

 

As for myself, due to the lack of an ability to work, I currently do freelance game design stuff, getting published, working to find ways off welfare in ways I can do things.  I also started a non-profit when I could even find volunteer work to beef up a resume.  I do work on what I can, within my ability to act.  Well, I wouldn't expect you to see this, but you apparently do manifest a very ballsy ignorance that is braisen and really stands out as not having a clue.  Seriously, you lack a number of clues.  If you had one, you might even find some compassion.