Kasz216 said:
Epic_Bro_Fist said:
Kasz216 said:
Epic_Bro_Fist said:
rocketpig said:
Epic_Bro_Fist said:
rocketpig said:
Epic_Bro_Fist said:
Dr. Manhaton isn't that powerful at all, there are versions of Superman that could manhandle him with the utmost of ease. |
... until Manhattan simply breaks Superman apart on the molecular level and redistributes his particles into a red sun.
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Yeah the version of Superman that was able to defeat Mandrakk or the one that was able to stop the Atmos universe from collapsing, I think not.
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So... Manhattan can't be killed by anything Superman could do (he could simply teleport, move his atoms, rematerialize if vaporized, whatever) and could simply shift Superman to anywhere he liked (or just rip him into several pieces... Superman is strong but there's nothing suggesting that Manhattan couldn't simply reverse the polarity of atoms and tear him apart) but Superman would still win? How?
The best you could argue is that Superman's molecules are too strong to rip apart and therefore, would stalemate with Manhattan. But beat him? No, not really. You can't beat a guy who can restructure his own molecular makeup unless you have a method of teleporting him to another dimension or something of that sort.
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Well the version of Superman that defeated Mandrakk aka Cosmic (monitor) armor Superman was able to take hits from Mandrakk a guy that could destroy multiple universes and he could dish out even stronger attacks, there wouldn't even be a mollecule of Dr. Manhaton left. that version of Superman also held the power of being able to adapt to any kind of threat. Although if you wan't to argue that Dr. Manhaton would still some how survive, then Corsmic armor superman would probably send him to limbo.
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Let me ask you a question.... have you read Watchmen?
It's not that Doctor Manhatten can destroy universes.
It's that he can make them cease to exist.
By the time you adapt to that... well you don't exist.
To quote watchmen "God Exists, and he's American."
Dr. Manhattan more or less represented a christ like god who was unstoppable.
It's also worth noting, that unless your using a very specific kind of radiation. Dr. Manhatten knows what your going to do before you do it, because he lives in all moments at once and can pick whichever future he wants.
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Many character are seen as gods in diferent fictions, the question is whether they have the feats tp support their nigh-omnipotence.
the bolded is a character statement and can be seen as an nlf.
Cosmic armor superman has adapted to people like Mandrakk who are way above people like DR. Manhaton. Also I would like to see this feat by Dr. Manhoton of him making universes cease to exist and alo being omni-present.
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Do yourself a favor and actually read watchmen then.
Manhatten has control over all atoms on an atomic level to the point of where being atomized disables him for about a half a second, and canonically is mentioned to have precognition in that he lives every single moment at the same time.
There ain't shit superman can do about that. Not even Precrisis superman can avoid just being blinked out of existance via atom manipulation.
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Read Final Crisis and Superman Beyond 3D.
Cosmic Armor Superman held the DC Multiverse that consisted of 52 universes, holds the power of dimension manipulation ,survived a blast that held the power of ten billion suns, and Defeated mandrak a multiversal threat.
He was also stated canonically to be able to adapt to any type of threat.
There ain't shit that DR. Manhaton can do about that.
