Who's the strongest super hero? (No anime!)

[rocketpig]

Epic_Bro_Fist said:

rocketpig said:

Epic_Bro_Fist said:
Dr. Manhaton isn't that powerful at all, there are versions of Superman that could manhandle him with the utmost of ease.

... until Manhattan simply breaks Superman apart on the molecular level and redistributes his particles into a red sun.

Yeah the version of Superman that was able to defeat Mandrakk or the one that was able to stop the Atmos universe from collapsing, I think not. 

So... Manhattan can't be killed by anything Superman could do (he could simply teleport, move his atoms, rematerialize if vaporized, whatever) and could simply shift Superman to anywhere he liked (or just rip him into several pieces... Superman is strong but there's nothing suggesting that Manhattan couldn't simply reverse the polarity of atoms and tear him apart) but Superman would still win? How?

The best you could argue is that Superman's molecules are too strong to rip apart and therefore, would stalemate with Manhattan. But beat him? No, not really. You can't beat a guy who can restructure his own molecular makeup unless you have a method of teleporting him to another dimension or something of that sort.