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oldschoolfool said:
It all about personal responsibility,but welfare should be for those that really need it,but what qualifies as really needing welfare? That's were people take advantage.

That is a good question of what really qualifies, and what is "really need it".  Considering what I have run into, I swear that people will say stuff like "we will always need to help the poor" and "we" in that case refers to anyone but them.  The line from Scrooge sums it up ("I help the poor.  I pay taxes").  But, out of the other side of the mouth will come the cutting of welfare to people, or like the guy replies in the blog to me, "He should kill himself, so my taxes will be lower...".  People will say "need to help" because they really don't want to look like a sociopath they really are.  You will even get an Objectionist saying this in public, to others.  People don't want to look uncaring.  Well, if not that, it is they have guilt that maybe, just maybe, someone may end up dying from their lack of concern, so they speak of "the poor must be helped", out of guilt.

And then people want to have everything means tested, and also doesn't like the size of government growing.  Because it isn't a negative income tax, that goes out to everyone, you end up hiring people to judge whether or not the person is "worthy" of help.