Rath said:
Marks said:
rocketpig said:
Marks said: Obama will go down as one of the worst later on. He contributed more debt than all previous presidents combined, launched more invasions than Bush, failed to get the troops out of the middle east (which was a pre-election promise), bailed out big corporations, and much more. |
You've been watching too much Fox News. Only if you tack on Bush's stimulus package does Obama's "debt contribution" go that high.
And who cares how many "invasions" Obama "started"? Bush started an entire god-damned war that involved hundreds of thousands of troops, got thousands of troops killed, and what do we have to show for it? A country that nobody wants? Yay, America.
This partisan bullshit needs to stop. Bush was a lousy President. I don't think Obama is much better but I'm certainly not going to lay Bush's mistakes on him. He has enough to answer for after four years without taking on Dubya's clusterfuck of a Presidency.
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I never said a good thing about Bush here man. And I also could have thrown on SOPA/PIPA and giving himself the right to imprison Americans without a warrant to Obama's resume. And these are just things I'm remembering off the top of my head, if I dug deeper I could find more goodies.
And yeah Bush's war in Iraq/Afghanistan was terrible and nothing good came from it, but that doesn't take away from Obama continuing the war well into his presidency, as well as invading Libya and wherever else. What was to stop Obama from keeping his pre-election promise of bringing the troops home? Did Bush somehow still have some power to keep them there as of November 2008?
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1) SOPA/PIPA/CISPA have not been supported by the White House and Obama has threatened to use his veto on them. He cannot be blamed for them.
2) Obama has never suspended the writ of habeus corpus as far as I can see. Interestingly enough Bush did.
3) Obama never promised to bring the troops home straight away. Doing so would have left those countries without a stable government...
It's too early to judge Obama's presidency but some of the things he gets criticised for are simply incorrect.
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1. Fair enough
2. Why do people keep comparing him to Bush? I never said Bush was good. But he did extend the patriot act, even though he may not have used it yet to imprison innocent americans.
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p12cAclNCRU