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@superchunk

We'll just have to disagree.

I don't think media will ever be a draw for consoles, that is why my argument rests on. You believe it will be a big enough draw that a console without it won't suceed. We won't even see who is right because no one will launch a console without media stuff, but I believe they are wrong and I hold up the Wii as why, still.

I like to portray it as big launch games vs big media presence because they do have limited development teams and those same people are used for games or OS (at least at Nintendo and Sony they will be)

I also believe mobile gaming will fail shortly. I'm seeing VC money poured in just like the dotcom bubble. The companies cannot make it consistent enough to get enough revenue to fund anything except another $1 flash-like game. Angry Birds 2 or whatever may have the sales numbers but it does not have the revenue to justify AAA games being on these platforms any time soon. You will not see those iPad owners pay $40 for a game (what's needed for a PS360 level graphics experience) ever.

iPhone and iPad themselves are indeed popular because they internet, phone, music and video. But those are not consoles, they are pocket computers, and the PC has never lived or died by gaming. People make games for the PC if they wish, but PC is not defined by games and you don't buy a PC for games (gaming PC sales << 360 sales). Console simply cannot compete with tablets/PC in media or features terms, they have already lost, their only hope is to redouble on the exclusive and polished $30-$40 experience games.