People think government is too big, only when they don't need it.

[Kasz216]

richardhutnik said:

Kasz216 said:
Well actually I take that back, I can think of one time protesting works. Though, only a specific very negative type case. Which is when the protesting takes on a sense of implied violence instead of actual belief differences.

EX, angry dudes standing outside an abortion clinic making teen mothers fear for their lives.

Though even then, not always, since well, Greece politicians sure avoided such threats and stuck with austerity, change instead needing to come via elections. (well because avoiding austerity is suicide.)

So thus, protests are pretty useless.  Actually coming up with solutions and doing them would be of greater help.

Well yeah, that was my conclusion too.

I just felt that saying no protest is effective as a bit too broad since say.  Since such a thing can have an effect on someone like a 14 year old girl who wants an abortion.

It's funny one interesting move in greece since the collapse has been a huge rise in direct to consumer produce sales... cutting out the middlemen.

It helps the consumer because they get fruits and vegetables at lower prices, even 1/2 to 3/4's off.  While it helps the farmers because they get there money up front right away when they need it. (Most retailers delay payments till the end of the season.

 

Works even better in the US if you can save up ahead of time and join a CSA..   I get Vegetables delivered to me that accounts for about 60-80% of the food my girlfriend and I eat in a week... for about $21 bucks a week.  Can't be a picky eater though.