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easyrider said:
richardhutnik said:

It may be worth watching, but reality is, Occupy doesn't even know why it Occupys.  Heck, it doesn't even know anything.  In Poughkeepsie, Occupy ended with them putting flowers an dirt on the sidewalk, with "More to come" as a sign.  Losing the park, and having permission to be there until 11 pm, no one would bother to show up even holding signs (oh there was the guy banging drums yelling out "Freedom").  Poughkeepsie is common for a lot of places.  Flat out, they don't know why they Occupy.  They just went with a camping in park fad and went away.  What it should be about is issues regarding income inequality, corruption in Wall Street (FUBAR like Facebook fiasco), and also money in politics.  It became anything but that, right down to people feeling the issue was the right to do drugs in parks.  And I know one person, who on principle, felt that there shouldn't be any traffic lights, because he would drive through every single red light he could, so long as the cops didn't show up.  Oh, and those who cried out for leadership, are the ones who generally were bullies.  One guy I know of said Occupy didn't have volunteers, it had employees.  This individual ended up persona non-gratis in a nearby county so he would come to Poughkeepsie and try to organize stuff.  Pretty much he drained all morale out, and then got frustrated and left.

Oh well, so much for me thinking Occupy would of been Operation Empire State Rebellion where they were going to siege the Fed (Guess what, Zuccotti Park is right near the NYC branch of the Fed).  Live and learn.  Issues get missed totally here.

Now this will be why I stop talking to you. Non like the others I know when someone is not informed. One of the major starting points for the occupy movement was Citizens United Ruling, plus glass steagal as in the video and tax fairness. You are the lost one my friend. You never been to a occupy. you choose what you wanted to see and ran with it. Metaphor = Just like racist do when they see a person of other color or sexual preference. Funny you want to see something.   Chicago nato - occupy  just this past week. 10's of thousands. So what where you saying? The corporately owned news stations you watch told you what??? LMFAO!!!   this just proves that the movement you thought was gone is way bigger then you ever expected. This movement is about people being sick of the corruption. There are so many problems thats why no Occupier will give you a single answer. There sick of it all, not just your right wing agenda. To the corporate democrates to the corporately owned republicans and whats funny is you don't see this at all. Occupiers do.                                                                                                                                               

Seriously dude?  You rip into me dude about this?  You actually say that I don't know squat?  I have never been to an Occupy?  REALLY?

You are the one who doesn't know.  I had been involved with Occupy in Poughkeepsie starting at its launch in October 15 of last year.  I supported it.  I was involved with it, when it launched.  I was also involved with working on trying to get Occupy Hudson Valley going, that was agreed to at a GA meeting, that was there to spin off things.  I also helped to get Occupy Wall Street come together and organize a meeting with  Occupy Hudson Valley, even acting as admin on Occupy Wall Street Hudson Valley page on Facebook.

Unless you have actually done what I had done, you happened to end up following it merely from a distance.  And you don't know, and don't see why other groups have issues dealing with them.  You also fail to read what I said it being successful, and you are merely engaging in wishful thinking, such I don't have time for.  In short, YOU are the one who doesn't know.  As for myself, I am aware of some of the issues, but the reality is that, by its nature, Occupy doesn't have any demands it can make, because it is an Anarchist driven, consensus focused, make sure everyone's view gets covered and we all agree, approach to things.  In the case of Poughkeepsie, it got reduced to nothing but some flowers on a sidewalk, and no one even holding signs any more.  And if you don't see this, then you aren't close.

You are seeing what you want to see.  It is needed to happen, but isn't.  

By the way, I did get down to Zuccotti a few days before they shut the camp down, because I had a feeling it was going to happen.  I picked up a number of buttons and information by anarchists on how they organize themselves and run things, that was very informative.  I had Occupy Poughkeepsie tell me to wait for them to go down, but I went ahead of time.  So, not only was I involved with Occupy in my area, I also attended the original Occupy camp down near Wall Street.  And looking at what you wrote more, you seriously confuse support for issues Occupy did with criticisms and disappointment over Occupy as a movement itself, which started as a global flash mob in response to what Ad Busters put up.  As a flashmob protest, it was very successful.  As an ongoing thing, the impact is about nil at this point.