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SWORDF1SH said: I don't know much about what it takes to slim a console. But anyway thats my opinion.


That perfectly sums up the differences between us. Me using facts, you saying things you have no idea about. 

Also I'm a lying individual who twists things? Let's look.

Me: Sony can't guarantee a 10 year plan, it isn't possible, that's for the market to decide. 
You: Of course they can they did it twice before. 
Me: What about the PSP? It is not something they can can guarantee. 
You: PSP won't make it but it doesn't count. PS3 will make it.
Me: PS3 probably will make it, it's doing great however Sony can't guarantee that. Again it's up to the market.
You: ZOMG STOP SAYING THE PS3 IS DOOMED!

Me: We have a slim PS3.
You: That doesn't count.
Me: Further revisions will be difficult due to the tecnological issues. We won't see another BIG redesign.
You: I have no idea about these issues but you are wrong, there will be another ps2 slim like redesign (which would be a further 50% reduction under your logic Fyi since the PS3 slim is apparently not slim but just the PS3. Would love to see them manage a 50% size reduction on an existing 33% reduction when the CPU is still drawing the same power)

You: It's the first time 3  consoles have survived (PS3 generation)
Me: What about the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube?
You: That's what I said..... (no it wasn't lol)

You: The market is the best it's ever been. 
Me: Sales are down globally. 
You: Yea but only because of the Wii. 
Me: Here are the lower PS3 sales in America for one month, now 4 months. 
You: That doesn't count.

You: Every year the PS3 will get more 3rd party support.
Me: You really think it will get more support when next gen starts?
You: Yes of course why would they ignore such a big install base? (So why aren't people still supporting the PS2, DS, PSP etc?)
Me: When Wii U arrives and soon 720 and PS4, support will decrease.
You: No it won't, besides all 3 are a FEW years away (Wii U is this year, PS4 and 720 are next year, that's not a few (3-4) years.

If you are wondering btw PS3 sales are practically flat this year in Japan compared to last year. Only it had a considerable price cut in August last year so this years results will end up much worse than last years once we hit August and there is no price cut this year, and then the Wii U launches. It is inevitable that PS3 sales will be down this year.

Your entire point still seems to simply be that because with two consoles, released more than 10 years ago, Sony could stay on the market for 10 years. That inevitably the PS3 and all future consoles will also be supported for a minimum of ten years. Anytime I point out that it's a different market you just try and shift the conversation. 

Whereas the simple matter of the fact is your own admission that the PSP won't make the 10 year mark 100% proves my point. Sony can't guarantee it. When they talk about it, it is simply nonsense. They can want to do it and they can try and do it but it is still just marketing talk. 

So there we have it. It's resolved. I say Sony can't guarantee support for 10 years for every console, you agree they can't guarantee it with every console as the PSP won't make it. 

That's the end of the discussion. You have already stated the PSP will fail to make it, so you can't try and twist that away. The proof is in the pudding. 

And now as the adult in this conversation I will do what you can't. I will simply walk away. You won't get anymore replies. I have proved my point, you have admitted to talking about things you have no idea about and resorting to opinion instead of fact, you have admitted they won't always do it as the PSP didn't and so forth. Perhaps if you manage to stop resorting to your opinions on factual matters then I will reply. 



Turkish says and I'm allowed to quote that: Uncharted 3 and God Of War 3 look better than Unreal Engine 4 games will or the tech demo does. Also the Naughty Dog PS3 ENGINE PLAYS better than the UE4 ENGINE.