cookingyourmama said:
slowmo said:
cookingyourmama said:
slowmo said:
cookingyourmama said:
slowmo said:
kowenicki said:
cookingyourmama said:
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kowenicki said:
so April:
NPD:
360 236k
PS3 175k
Wii 91k
VGC pre slight adjustments:
360 290k 22% over (54k)
PS3 223k 27% over (48k)
Wii 130k 43% over (39k)
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So yet another month where the 360 has been overtracked more than the ps3, thanks for pointing that out. :)
That makes it nine months in a row now this has happened in america.
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woop de doo
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O wow, really?
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So long as adjustments are made why does it matter?
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The point being that when one console is consistently overtracked compared to another 1) There is obviously a problem with the data/formulas used to work out the sales in the first place and 2) Having a group of posters on this site constantly post pro MS stuff, cherry picking data, trying to make it seem as if the 360 is hard done by compared to the ps3 when in reality it is the other way round is not okay.
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You either havent been here very long or you are ignoring what really goes on.
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Don't even respond to him, his agenda is quite clear. He'll soon get bored when everyone ignores his posts.
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Is it a coincidence that over the years of being on this website the people who reply to me trying to deny the above fact are the ones who have Halo or other MS based avatars/signatures or have a history of posting pro MS stuff? And i'm the one who has an 'agenda'?
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I like the pic, it makes me noticable to people who regularly visit the forum. If you want to hide behind a blank avatar because you think it somehow hides the fact you're massively pro Sony, then that's fine by me.
Your poor attitude and whining posts show your agenda not any avatar or signature you may have. I look forward to your upcoming perma ban when I figure out who's alt you are.
P.S - Your opinion is not fact, your misguided belief in this basic truth means any debate with you is out of the question, it's boring reading the same straw man arguments from you.
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Still waiting to be proved wrong when i post facts in the form of the actual numbers. When i pointed out that the 360 normally gets overtracked on this site compared to the ps3 i was greated by the usual suspects crying, 'no, no the ps3 is constantly overtracked and the 360 is undertracked, you're wrong/biased', so i backed up what i said by showing that for the past 9 months in a row the 360 has been overtracked more in america compared to the ps3 as well as being overtracked more at christmas worldwide. To which then i don't get any apologies or admissions of being wrong, i just get people with zero proof still trying to claim the opposite as if it was fact and it's the same old posters who do it. And these posters are the same ones who fought tooth and nail over the who really won 2011 thread and argued about the shipment numbers for both chirstmas and march, which again i proved solid proof showing that Mircosoft normally have signifcantly more in the retail channel at both thoses times of the year, yet those same posters just continue to ignore the facts and claim the 360 is getting hard done by compared to the ps3, it's pretty sad.
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You made a claim and have no evidence, actually the burden is on you to prove your facts which you can't so you're still wrong and still claiming opinion as fact. Also I only see one person crying about the numbers in these threads and it isn't the 360 fans. You seem to be on some sort of sad crusade ever since Sony's shipment figures proved we were overtracking them. Adjustments will come though.
Just out of interest I'm pretty sure we disussed in another thread that if you take NPD figures purely from January this year there is actually 100k difference in tracking variance between the 360 and PS3 which is well below 5% tolerance. This actually means for the last 5 months your "facts" are wrong. You're using a NPD *ESTIMATE* as a factual number which it isn't, they make mistakes too and make historical adjustments just like VG Chartz. The 360 might be overtracked more than the PS3, particular in the holidays but it is also adjusted down far more, the difference is the 360 fans on this site don't whine for weeks prior to adjustments claiming it's somehow not fair like you're doing regarding the upcoming downward adjustment by 500k for the PS3 (and it will come).
Take your incorrect straw man arguments and massively spun facts and figures and make your own thread if your so convinced because you've taken this one far enough off topic now and several other threads might I add.
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I have already backed up my claim with numbers and at the same time not a single shread of evidence has been produced by anybody else to prove me wrong. Constantly thread after thread is filled with the usual suspects wanting adjustments in favour of the 360 or against the ps3, and it is not a fact that right now the ps3 is definitely overtracked it is just an opinion, but thanks again for proving my point as you've come out with a statement that the ps3 is definitely overtracked and it will definitely be adjusted down, even tho all the official sales trackers match vgchartz numbers for the ps3. *rollseyes*
Sure if you ignore 5 of the last 9 months in america of the 360 being overtracked compared to the ps3 then the difference so far this year is only (lol)150k but why ignore all those months? Even if you take away the 360 being overtracked by 1 million+ in december the other 8 months still add up to over 350k in the 360's favour. Wether you like it or not NPD gets far more data then vgchartz does and their numbers are more reliable, so only an incredibly stupid or ignorant person would value them less then vgchartz american numbers. And if don't think 360 fans 'whine' more on this site, just go take a look at the threads for who won 2011, december npd, christmas fisical reports for both MS and Sony as well as the latest fisical reports that came out this past month. So how about you take your own advice and take your incorrect straw man arguments and massively spun opinions else where.
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