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IIIIITHE1IIIII on 14 May 2012
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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

I have no idea of why you put so much weight into this certain example when it's the principle that matters, which is the god paradox. God cannot create a free will that He has no control over, because that would mean that He is also able to create a God that is mightier than himself (as previously mentioned).

Side note: The "God lifting a rock" example obviously implied that the rock was affected by gravity. You can't change the circumstances in a concrete example when you want to prove a point.


Fine if you want a solid answer. Then ill give it to you. 

The real question is

"Can an omnipotnent being create a rock that the omnipotent being cant lift?"

1 -It is in the law of physics that a matter with limitless mass cannot be created in a three dimentional dimention. (Yes I said it in Black holes and I correct myself, im sorry). For a limitless mass will have enough magnetic force (Gravity) to "suck up" space itself. Therefore, a limitless mass of a rock cannot be created. Its illogical. Its like asking God to make a square circle. 

The fact remains that great masses such as neutron stars and black holes will result in AMAZING gravitational force. Imagine what a limiless mass can do. The second it exists is the second we disappear. 

(Illogical second point because EVERY matter in the universe produces gravity, in this second point God eliminated the magnetic force of the rock)

2 -If you want a rock that no one can lift. We have to take in to account that as long as you want a "ground" to exist, the rock will then exert gravitational potential energy againts the ground. The "ground" then has to make a counter force (resistance) againts the rock in order for the ground to stay in one piece or NOT be dented. As the rock then has a limitless mass, it then produces limitless weight force agains the ground. The ground then has to produce a limitless amount of resistance. 

In our three dimentional universe, limitless energy DOESNT EXIST. Therefore, it is again illogical. 


Your fixation about finding a logical solution to a god paradox is fascinating. An almighty god wouldn't need physical logic to solve problems (and would be able to create objects with an infinite mass).