NintendoPie on 14 May 2012
| radishhead said: -------------------------------------------------- From this point onwards he’s moved on from killing me, and onto defending NintendoPie. 7) @ Rol’s NinPie interrogation: “That's worthless or a trap. Assuming Radish and Pie are Mafia, Pie would never admit being on the same team as Radish. Assuming both are town Pie could have mistakenly said they are not on the same team. Assuming Pie is Mafia, and Radish isn't, Pie would have said they ar eon the same team. Assuming Radish is Mafia and Pie isn't, it's also guesswork. Assuming you and Radish are Mafia, you could be using this to your advantage” A7) Not much to say here really, but it was worth putting up because it was this that led to the argument between him and Rol. -- 8) “Because you are really pushing for him to answer? FoS Rol.” 9) “How was he supposed to answer if "impossible to tell" was not an answer?” 10) “When he said he was unable to answer, you kept pushing, even if it was clear he can't answer.” 11) “Well, he did blindly say he was not on his team without thinking it much, but I'm sure you wouldn't have allowed a "impossible to answer" scenario.” A8, 9, 10, 11) These quotes aren’t in rapid succession either- but they are taken from a line of his messages, without anything taken out between them. All of these messages seem desperate to me- it’s really strange, especially considering that NinPie hasn’t requested any of this help (not in the thread at least), and Rol did a similar interrogation technique on other players earlier. There’s no getting away from the fact that he believed that this line of questioning would put NinPie in serious trouble (no idea why, as it was only one player’s simple questions), and that this meant bad news for him for whatever reason – there’s no other reason that he would need to defend him in this way. I’m not accepting that he’s arguing with Rol for such a long time for the sake of protecting a “confused” new player. He continues below: -- (NinPie): “Moreno really covers all of my feelings about this. ” 12) “Well, you should be doing this really, but I just find Rol's actions fishy.” (Rol notices this later on: “By the way, you were there when I asked baalz the same question earlier in the game and didn't have an issue with my actions, even though I used a harsher tone. Is there any particular reason why you jumped to pie's defense?”) A12) There seems to be friendly communication going on between Moreno and NinPie at this point. Honestly, I’m not surprised that NP is cheerful about this- I would be too if someone just fought my side for me that hard. Not only this, but his reaction is simply “you should be doing this really...” – when he was MUCH more critical of the actions of people like Stef and I for much less suspicious behaviour than simply sitting back and letting someone argue a case for us. It could be that Moreno is mafia and trying to gain the trust of NinPie because he feels that he’s an easily manipulated townie, but I’m not sure yet. -- 13) “I'm just trying to stop abuse from someone who was very confused and apparently, is too weak to even try to defend himself. And let's assume we are both Mafia, I wouldn't be stupid enough to outright defend him.” (Linkz mentions this a bit later on: “Let's assume one of you is mafia. Are you stupid enough to defend mafia as town, or are you defending a poor townie for brownie points?”)...[Moreno]: “No, I just really think Rol trying to make Pie answer something he can't is totally out of context.” A13) More defence- very curious. Explains how he wouldn’t be “stupid enough” to outright defend a Mafia NinPie if they were both Mafia, but he explains that the reason for his defending was merely to “stop abuse”. To me, it suggests a Mafia Moreno, and a town NinPie. -- NP1) [NinPie]: “Anyway, I can almost assure you that Moreno is not Mafia.” ANP1) Not a Moreno quote, but it’s interesting looking at it with the context of the rest of Moreno/Ninpie’s communication this round. Has Moreno successfully manipulated townie NinPie, or are they both Mafia? I think it’s one or the other, because this is a VERY strange thing to say if neither are true. -- 14) “Honestly, this is where I wanted to go to. Unvote: Radish He is playing well right now.” “I still think the case on NintendoPie is pretty weak since he is still a novice and doesn't get some things, Rol, on the other hand knows very well how to play and is very capable of luring players into their doom.” “Now, I don't like Baalz, he looks like he is trying too hard to get people to vote for NintendoPie.” A14) - [Unvote] “he is playing well right now”: a fair few other players (Stef, Prof, among others?) didn’t think this – a bit quick to pull back considering how confident he was before? - Just explaining past actions – I would have thought that he would have moved on from the NinPie debate by now, but I guess not - He’s finally moved onto someone besides me and NP, but it’s actually just more defence of NinPie. -- 15) “I don't know, something, something related to flavor or skills? Of course, assuming said post exists in the first place. I'm looking for something that might point to it as we speak.”...” How is that even rolefishing? I said it COULD be that.” A15) Sorry guys, I can’t follow this rolefishing convo- I understand that prof is accusing Moreno of it, but I don’t understand why (I think I missed a quote back there or something) Thanks for reading |
If you are trying to put us together, you can't. My comments are pulled from the air. I seriously do not really know if he is Mafia or not, as I am a Townie who wouldn't know these things. But, I would think a Mafia would sooner rather than later pull out on defending me as to not look suspicious, as he looks now.
